Hi, I must be missing something here, but what is the problem with signing things as a blind person? I've never thought it was a problem, just ask someone to put the pen on the paper and away you go... Cheers Karl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE I will often let people sign on my behalf for example, when they come to do my annual gas service. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hussein Patwa" <accessuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE > Hi, > > Oh how I wish I'd thought of this when I was at University! Even my mum > uses one and she's not visually impaired. I used to have to sign things at > least 20 times a week and it was getting to be a real bother. Like > Eleanor, > I would accept people signing on my behalf but I would not like it. It's > that loss of independence for something so simple (compared to other > things) > and in legal terms unless it's set up properly you also have that loss of > control. > > How something so simple can make such a big difference! Oh well, > something > to bear in mind for the future. > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > Please note: For security reasons calls from witheld numbers may not be > connected. 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Save paper > by > deleting sections of the message which are not relevant. > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:44 AM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: [SPAM] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >> I agree Peter though I did learn at the age of 10 to write mine. As my >> vision deteriorated so did my signature. Thing is I feel it is good to >> be >> asked to sign rather than those days when people wanted to put an x >> there >> because the person could not write their name. It is this notjion of >> illetercy that I did not like, it wasn't an inability to write but an >> inability to see what one is writing. Ibrahim made a very interesting >> point >> which I thought related to me only, the ability to hold a pen >> correctly. I >> was shown so many times as a child but it all felt very awkward and if >> I >> held it like a sighted person then I would not have a hope of writing >> anything. Strange that, we learn to use a knife and fork in the same >> way as >> sighted people, or do we!? >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:25 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: [SPAM] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >> >> >I hate signing anything. I couldn't sign at all until I went on my >> second >> >stay at RNIB'S Mannor House Torquay in 1989 When I was taught. My >> signature >> >is s different each time, and I have difficulty making it small. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:32 AM >> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: [SPAM] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> > >> > >> >>I wonder would the signature guide help in this regard. At least >> someone >> >>can put it n the place where the signature goes. Trouble I find is >> making >> >>of keeping the signature small enough. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx> >> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:30 AM >> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: [SPAM] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Richard. >> >>> >> >>> Fair enough, sound advice but my wife's bank is happy to allow her >> to >> >>> use her stamp, however I'm not privy to the importance of the >> documents >> >>> she's allowed to sign with it as we keep our banking arrangements >> >>> totally separate *smile*. >> >>> >> >>> All the best and thanks again for your input. >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:23 AM >> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: [SPAM] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> As a solicitor, I wouldn't advise using a stamp for important >> docs. >> >>>> This is >> >>>> because, >> >>>> 1. The risk of misuse by a third party is greater; and >> >>>> 2. even if banks and so on are prepared to accept use of a stamp, >> they >> >>>> usually require you to give an indemnity - which would make you >> >>>> responsible >> >>>> even if the stamp were used by a third party without your consent. >> >>>> >> >>>> I think it's slightly different at work, where I used a stamp for >> >>>> signing >> >>>> quite a lot of stuff, but I knew that I was not likely to incur >> any >> >>>> liability by doing so. >> >>>> >> >>>> Richard Godfrey-McKay >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Tel: (01738) 445 880 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Mobile: 07791-452593 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> >>>> Behalf Of >> >>>> Ibrahim Gucukoglu >> >>>> Sent: 11 November 2009 10:14 >> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>> Subject: [SPAM] [access-uk] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi Richard. >> >>>> >> >>>> Why not? My wife uses hers all the time for doing important >> banking >> >>>> forms, >> >>>> even for signing work related paperwork. Its your signature after >> all, >> >>>> the >> >>>> stamp is custom made and can easily be refilled with ink. >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: "Richard Godfrey-McKay" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:11 AM >> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Carol, Most stationery shops do them. OK for letters, but I >> shouldn't >> >>>>> use them for signing important docs. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Richard Godfrey-McKay >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Tel: (01738) 445 880 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Mobile: 07791-452593 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> >>>>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson >> >>>>> Sent: 11 November 2009 09:56 >> >>>>> To: Access UK Mailing List >> >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] RUBBER STAMPING SIGNATURE >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hi all, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Does anyone use a stamp for their signature these days? We used >> to >> >>>>> have one ages back ... 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