[access-uk] Re: RNIB Product Boycott (re-send)

  • From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:11:57 +0100

Hi Clive

Yes was able to read your message find this time!!
Thank you

Derek


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 2:54 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] RNIB Product Boycott (re-send)

Hello all, especially Derek,

Google has just tought me how I should be able to re-format individual
messages into plain text. So I'm re-sending as plain text. Please can
anyone who received my last message on RNIB Product as a blank, let me
know whether this one comes through with readable text, or whether it
still seems blank.

Best,
Clive



Thanks,
Clive
Hello,

I find the idea disturbing, that blind people would be expected to
raise funds on the street for free, while sighted people would be paid
for doing the same thing. Is this not discrimination? There is a
gratitude attitude coming in here, I think, similar to the one in
which some local societies have blind volunteers and sighted employees
sitting next to each other doing exactly the same thing.

I also feel some disquiet at the RNIB's preoccupation with sight loss.
This doesn't mean I don't believe newly-blind people should get the
support they need and deserve. It means that I wonder how, if so many
services related to blindness but neither to sight loss prevention,
nor to support for people when they lose their sight are allowed to
atrophy, what are the prospects for blind people one or two years
after initial sight loss, when they're getting to grips with issues
like: "Where can I find a watch or a washing machine I can use" and
the answers they receive are vague or blatantly negative":
"unfortunately we don't have anyone here who can help you any more".

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Moore
Sent: 09 October 2015 14:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

Hi,

I'll keep this short as it is not the proper list to express these
thoughts.

It infuriates me as many organisations like us to remain dependant, as
it keeps them in work... Also another pet gripe is organisations
having VI people out collecting in public areas, which is a bit like
emotional blackmail, yet pay fund raisers £30K+ per year as an
employed staff member.

Rant over.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Eleanor burke
Sent: 09 October 2015 14:33
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

well personally I do not think you should be telling them in accurate
information I am of the opinion if you are going to have conversation
about your dog with the public you should be educating them.

On 9 Oct 2015, at 14:28, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

hi janet strangely when i got in to the leeds station today a dog
tried to get to zarah and it was someone with a training dog maybe
aben drury but of course they never speak to us or anything but, like
ian says all this from a charity that years ago fought of us like hell
campained for things to be bejter for us people have been on
committees spending hours fighting for our rights and now they come
out with something like this. the public are very gullable and believe
all this rubbish.

in sheffield people used to ask me how i got on the right bus and i
told them the dog could read the numbers and you know they believed
it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT



Hi John

I just despair of these people and you are right you tell guide
dogs
things and no notice is taken whatsoever because totally blind
people
are in a minority they are just left on the shelf to disappear.

-----Original Message-----
From: john gallagher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 2:17 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

hi janet well i am certainly not going to pay for the rubbish over
drive set up sad really but to me like the guide dogs the people at

the top never discuss anything with us at the bottom so to speak.
also on the train today someone was adamant i could see are you
parttly sighted she kept asking it just felt as though i had landed
from outer space.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 1:59 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT



Hi Ian

I don't know if you read this newspaper but last week in the daily

mirror there was an article about an American woman who wanted to
go
blind which infuriated me about as much as what you have written
has. There was also an advert about fifteen years ago done by
action for blind people that made us look totally helpless which
annoyed me as well. I don't buy the rnib's products as I think
they
are poor quality most of the time. and when my year's
subscription
is up I don't think I will renew it either.

Janet ps there are still letters at the bottom of your messages.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Macrae
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 1:52 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

I am seriously considering boycotting what few RNIB products and
services I use - chiefly the electronic newspaper service - in
response to their latest ad campaign. There has been an item on
this at the end of today's edition of WATO. Celebs including
Barbara Windsor and Shirley Bassey are presented talking about the

idea of being told they're going blind. Bassey describes that
possibility as being "Devastating" and says she might as well be
told that she's going to die. Once again they have turned my
impairment into a thing of terror and me into an object of pity
and
I've had enough of

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Clive Lever
Diversity and Equality Officer
Kent County Council
 
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Kent County Council
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