Yes, and the idea that a guide dog is the panacea for silent cars is a
dangerous one too. no, noise makers are what's needed for silent electric cars.
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James English
Sent: 09 October 2015 16:50
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
BTW, does anyone else think that guide dogs advert with the guy saying that if
a car comes at you on the road the guide dog will move you out of the way is
odd? Mine won't do that, it'll stop before you even get into its path. Is this
different with different guide dog schools?
On 10/9/15, Mike Ray <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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This is something to laugh at, not get upset about.
The world is full of less-than-intelligent people saying
less-than-intelligent things about everything every day. Most of the
time their comments are harmless and are not noteworthy.
When an old lady on the bus asked me a few weeks ago how I knew where
my stop was I just told her "I count my heartbeats" and immediately
forgot it and got on with my day.
I'd much rather somebody moved something out of my way than I either
went base over apex or knocked something down that cost somebody money.
But bloody 'A' boards in the High Street should be banned.
On 09/10/2015 16:15, Angel (Redacted sender angel238 for DMARC) wrote:
The way the general public treats us as blind people depresses me so
sometimes. It seems regardless the education given them, they are
most unwilling to even try to understand we are just as capable of
doing for ourselves, and of asking for assistance when we need it.
They will praise us for our work. While, at the same time, they will
move objects out of the way of our canes. Before we have the chance
to even touch them with our canes. When I had a guide dog, I got on
a bus once, and told the driver where I wanted to get off. A short
time later two older ladies got on the bus. One said to the other:
"Do you know, those dogs know where to get off?" The other said:
"Really?" The first one
said: "Of course they do." The driver heard this colloquy. I got
off the bus sooner than did they. The driver said: "Dog, we are now
at" The bus stop I wanted to arrive at. As I got off the bus, I heard
the first older lady say to the other: "see, I told you those dogs
know where to get off".
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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:28 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
hi janet strangely when i got in to the leeds station today a dog
tried to get to zarah and it was someone with a training dog maybe
aben drury but of course they never speak to us or anything but,
like ian says all this from a charity that years ago fought of us
like hell campained for things to be bejter for us people have been
on committees spending hours fighting for our rights and now they
come out with something like this. the public are very gullable and
believe all this rubbish.
in sheffield people used to ask me how i got on the right bus and i
told them the dog could read the numbers and you know they believed it.
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Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
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Hi John
I just despair of these people and you are right you tell guide
dogs things and no notice is taken whatsoever because totally blind
people are in a minority they are just left on the shelf to
disappear.
-----Original Message----- From: john gallagher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 2:17 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
hi janet well i am certainly not going to pay for the rubbish over
drive set up sad really but to me like the guide dogs the people at
the top never discuss anything with us at the bottom so to speak.
also on the train today someone was adamant i could see are you
parttly sighted she kept asking it just felt as though i had landed
from outer space.
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From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 1:59 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
was > also
Hi Ian
I don't know if you read this newspaper but last week in the
daily mirror there was an article about an American woman who
wanted to go blind which infuriated me about as much as what you
have written has. There
anrnib's
advert about fifteen years ago done by action for blind people
that made us look totally helpless which annoyed me as well. I
don't buy the
products as I think they are poor quality most of the time. andwhen > my
year's subscription is up I don't think I will renew it either.services
Janet ps there are still letters at the bottom of your messages.
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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 1:52 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
I am seriously considering boycotting what few RNIB products and
Ibe > told
use - chiefly the electronic newspaper service - in response to
their latest ad campaign. There has been an item on this at the
end of today's edition of WATO. Celebs including Barbara Windsor
and Shirley Bassey are presented talking about the idea of being
told they're going blind. Bassey describes that possibility as
being "Devastating" and says she might as well
that she's going to die. Once again they have turned myimpairment > into
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