[access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

  • From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 16:03:48 +0000

I'll give you a chance if you give me a time frame.

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 13 October 2015 16:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

Hi Clive.

At the moment, the technology for life team is a very new entity, we used to be
called the technology sales and support team and so this change will take a
while to settle in and manifest itself in increased resources to serve our
customer base the best way we can. Give us a chance ey?

-----Original Message-----
From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:18 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

Hi Ibrahim,

So I would have expected that when I'd called about watches, and a friend had
called about washing machines, both in the past few weeks, the service desk
operators might have mentioned the Technology For Life team, or is this 'jam
tomorrow'?

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 12 October 2015 23:18
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

Hi Clive.

That's one of the things the Technology for Life team, which is part of Action
for Blind People is looking to resolve. Anyone with any queries about
technology products from household appliances and everyday living gadgets right
up to the more sophisticated IE braille devices, note takers, smartphones and
computers. We are trying to diversify and fill that gap and we all look to
provide that kind of information to both people who are losing or who have
already lost their sight.

Take care, Ibrahim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:22 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

Hello,

I find the idea disturbing, that blind people would be expected to raise funds
on the street for free, while sighted people would be paid for doing the same
thing. Is this not discrimination? There is a gratitude attitude coming in
here, I think, similar to the one in which some local societies have blind
volunteers and sighted employees sitting next to each other doing exactly the
same thing.

I also feel some disquiet at the RNIB's preoccupation with sight loss. This
doesn't mean I don't believe newly-blind people should get the support they
need and deserve. It means that I wonder how, if so many services related to
blindness but neither to sight loss prevention, nor to support for people when
they lose their sight are allowed to atrophy, what are the prospects for blind
people one or two years after initial sight loss, when they're getting to grips
with issues like: "Where can I find a watch or a washing machine I can use" and
the answers they receive are vague or blatantly
negative": "unfortunately we don't have anyone here who can help you any more".

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Michael Moore
Sent: 09 October 2015 14:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

Hi,

I'll keep this short as it is not the proper list to express these thoughts.

It infuriates me as many organisations like us to remain dependant, as it keeps
them in work... Also another pet gripe is organisations having VI people out
collecting in public areas, which is a bit like emotional blackmail, yet pay
fund raisers £30K+ per year as an employed staff member.

Rant over.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor burke
Sent: 09 October 2015 14:33
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

well personally I do not think you should be telling them in accurate
information I am of the opinion if you are going to have conversation about
your dog with the public you should be educating them.

On 9 Oct 2015, at 14:28, john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

hi janet strangely when i got in to the leeds station today a dog
tried to get to zarah and it was someone with a training dog maybe
aben drury but of course they never speak to us or anything but, like
ian says all this from a charity that years ago fought of us like hell
campained for things to be bejter for us people have been on
committees spending hours fighting for our rights and now they come
out with something like this. the public are very gullable and believe
all this rubbish.

in sheffield people used to ask me how i got on the right bus and i
told them the dog could read the numbers and you know they believed it.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT



Hi John

I just despair of these people and you are right you tell guide dogs
things and no notice is taken whatsoever because totally blind people
are in a minority they are just left on the shelf to disappear.

-----Original Message-----
From: john gallagher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 2:17 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

hi janet well i am certainly not going to pay for the rubbish over
drive set up sad really but to me like the guide dogs the people at
the top never discuss anything with us at the bottom so to speak.
also on the train today someone was adamant i could see are you
parttly sighted she kept asking it just felt as though i had landed
from outer space.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 1:59 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT



Hi Ian

I don't know if you read this newspaper but last week in the daily
mirror there was an article about an American woman who wanted to go
blind which infuriated me about as much as what you have written
has. There was also an advert about fifteen years ago done by
action for blind people that made us look totally helpless which
annoyed me as well. I don't buy the rnib's products as I think they
are poor quality most of the time. and when my year's subscription
is up I don't think I will renew it either.

Janet ps there are still letters at the bottom of your messages.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Macrae
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 1:52 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT

I am seriously considering boycotting what few RNIB products and
services I use — chiefly the electronic newspaper service — in
response to their latest ad campaign. There has been an item on
this at the end of today's edition of WATO. Celebs including
Barbara Windsor and Shirley Bassey are presented talking about the
idea of being told they're going blind. Bassey describes that
possibility as being "Devastating" and says she might as well be
told that she's going to die. Once again they have turned my
impairment into a thing of terror and me into an object of pity and
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