Hi
Yes they do charge for the new products guide, or they used
to.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: 21 November 2009 10:21
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
I think if this discussion is going to continue (and I won't
be surprised if the moderator doesn't step in soon), it is
only right that the facts should be correct. RNIB does not
charge for New Product Guide and it is available to anyone
who wants it in any of the accessible formats. You also have
free access to the New Books magazine at least from the web.
Compare the price of Daisy books from RNIB with offerings
available to the general public and you will see that RNIB
prices are considerably lower. I have issues with RNIB but
to say that it is ruled by a "grab" mentality is both untrue
and unfair.
Iain
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From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:45 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi Eleanor, for them to charge for what ostensively is
product news is
attrocious. They really don't know when to stop. It just
seems to be
grab grab grab. They've totally lost sight of what they're
there for.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:05 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
I agree with all you say John. Of course RNiB should
proof read just
as any publishing company should proof read. Indeed many
blind people
lost jobs as proof readers in the RNIB sadly.
One thing I do resent greatly from the RNIB is this
membership and
how one has to pay an annual subscription to be a member
and then one
gets a CD or whatever, it was even a cassette at one
point, of the RNIB news.
Now I think that is dreadful and shuld be free to all!!!!
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi Eleanor, no charity should make money from those it
exists to
help. I don't know about you, but I've never had
anything from the
RNIB I haven't paid for, and yet they'd have the public
believe the
millions of pounds they contribute is used to help us.
I don't know if you remember, but around the time the
penfriend was
released someone posted about mistakes in the braille
instructions,
and the RNIB rep on the list said that they couldn't be
expected to
proof read every document they issued. Of course they
should. That
is one of the things the money they take in should pay
for.
As for educational bodies claiming charitable status,
although when
originally founded they may have qualified I'm sure that
many of
them shouldn't have it now. I think that with a lot of
the
organisations that have had it for years and years it's
taken for
granted and the charity commission don't keep as close
an eye on them as they perhaps should.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:29 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Indeed not but when I consider the RNIB and it does do
work for
blind people, then I can understand charity status but
when I see
educational establishments claiming charity status,
even
universities, then that worries me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Hi Eleanor, maybe then the charity comission should
check them
out. If they're doing nothing wrong they'd have
nothing to worry about.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Well John look at all that have Charity status and I
wonder at that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
So you're saying that as long as they're not a
public company
with shareholders they can turn a profit, despite
non profit
status? That seems rather a contradiction in terms.
That would
be no different then than any non quoted company.
They all
plough their profits back into the business.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Proud" <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:45 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB
Making money in one area of their business doesn't
mean that
they are breaking any rules. It is their full
financial
position which gets them a not for profit status;
in other
words they have to plough the money back into the
business, not
give it out as profits for shareholders.
If you have a problem with the RNIB for doing this
you are
going to have the same problem with all the rest of
the non-
profit sector.
Cheers
Karl
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