Hi, well, yes your quite right of Course, Sorry, I just feel as a VI we have spent most of our lives having to prove "We are equal to our sighted piers" and maybe as a mum of 4 it could be I feel that more. Having both 2 youngsters with and 2 without an eye condition going through schools with discrimination problems, the youngest (of 13 years old) being Home educated due to teacher bullying. I just feel the World is always looking out for the Bad and Sad points in VI folks when they should be realizing we are Perfectly Normal, only without vision. I just Feel Sorry for these youngsters with all the problems and challenges they have to face in their future lives and feel showing the public the "Better side" of our disability is far better than what was filmed for the TV show. Maybe its Me who has a problem? I would be quite prepared to accept that! Christine W.----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNC documentary christine, although I didn't see the program I spoke to a number of people who did both blind and sighted. saying it was full of bad manners and foul language is probably a bit on the prudish side. the program is of course done largely for entertainment and seeing a load of 17 year olds studdying is not, to be fair, particularly interesting TV. more time could be spent perhaps looking at some of the technology students use as well as the forward thinking inovations that teachers of subjects such as science need to make in order to teach the students. Such programs however may be more at home in the Open University programming if this still exists. the same kind of thing applies to chess. it's just not stimulating unless you have a knowledge of chess to have highlights on tv. Cheers Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNC documentary I agree with you here Carol, My I think the programm was done for entertainment and through the eyes of a tipical media reporter. Nothing "Good" was promoted in the programm, fowl language, bad maners. Guess Hannah wasn't in the programm as she's a different type of person, one who wants to Achieve and Get on in life, Not quite how the media want to present a VI person. Christine W.----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:35 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNC documentary Hi Chris, OK, we heard the documentary here, though there was no sight in the house to confirm anything. There was the naration but, for some reason or other, we didn't get the audio description on Cable. Anyway, after a while we switched to digi-TV and got the audio which did improve things a little. My honest view is that Channel 4 made a very poor programme, wasting a lot of time and not getting sufficient background about courses and information through to the public. As I wrote last night, I object greatly to that phrase "Young blind things", as though they're a piece of rubbish! I know it may be an expression that's very much "in" now, but I found it very demeaning indeed to think of such folk in this way. There were extra students around from time to time but of course I have no knowledge as to whether one of them was Hannah. She was not mentioned by name, so far as I can recall. Salina and Stacy were the prominent girls. On a good note, I was pleased (and slightly amused) to discover that they at least still use the word "Totals" at RNC. That sure took me back! (They didn't mention "The dims and visions" though. Perhaps, in some ways, that's as bad as the word "things", but we chose to call ourselves by those names and that was the difference! Well, forgive my rambles, Mr. Moderator. I'll get off the computer and come back ready to keep good conduct tomorrow, promise! -- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Greg Athans" <g.athans@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: [access-uk] RNC documentary > Hi all, > Well the RNC documentary might have finished now. What did you think of > it? Did you see Hannah at all? I don't think she was on it, which would > be disappointing, but I'm sure it was worth the watch anyway. Any > comments are greatly appreciated. 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