To add to my fourth point, many people have received very useful information on
a whole variety of subjects from other blind users which has probably helped
them to make good decisions and, as importantly, avoid making expensive
purchases of inappropriate equipment in error.
Fifthly, None of the subjects I listed earlier have been ruled OT and to make
such a ruling in respect of coffee machines seems to me rather arbitrary.
Sixth and finally, I’ve already learned something very useful about accessible
locks from a thread on this list today which should, if rules are to be
regarded as hard and fast be similarly ruled off topic for the list.
On 14 May 2016, at 12:21, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ed,
Here is where it becomes difficult and I agree with your post. What is the
definition of access tech? I agree with you and we all, myself included,
have been guilty of talking about gadgets, trueCall in my case and other
gadgets. So the guidelines do either need to be enforced, or re-written.
Anyone care to define access tech in this context?
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Edward Green
Sent: 14 May 2016 00:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator
Hi George,
I don't dispute that that's what the list guidelines say, and on a strict
interpretation of those guidelines, coffee machines are prima facie off
topic.
However, this constitute peripatetic enforcement. I went onto the April
archive page of Access-UK to see how many messages had been posted about the
Goodmans DAB Digital Radio. To be honest, I gave up counting, but there
were a lot more than there have been on the coffee machine thread and I
didn't see one from you about the thread being off topic. BTW if anyone
wants to count, the link is
https://www.freelists.org/archive/access-uk/04-2016?threads=1.
If the speed limit is 70 miles an hour, you have to enforce it for all cars
you see doing 90, not just yellow ones. Or if you prefer, if the referee
books a player for a tackle from behind after 5 minutes, he has to book
everyone else who does the same thing in the rest of the game.
Cheers,
Ed
On 13 May 2016, at 23:42, George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:discuss any technical problems which are related to either the hardware or
I'm hoping this plain text message is visible to all members.
The first part of the list's Welcome message says:
"1. This list is primarily set up for UK users of Access Technology to
software they are using."
Technology".
Note the words "users of Access Technology".
I'm sorry, but coffee machines, guide dogs and such like are not "Access
will be necessary to take a harder line here.
There are others lists to discuss such topics, and if this continues, it
George Bell.
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