[access-uk] Re: Problems programming with speech

  • From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:53:23 +0100

Hi Barry,

Yes, the BCAB list is really the place for this one.

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 24 October 2006 17:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Problems programming with speech

I suggest you contact BCAB ASAP.  Hopefully you'll reach a wider list
there 
of people who may be able to help

How I wish I could!

--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx

you.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "BCAB List" <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Problems programming with speech


> Hi all.
>
> I am in the second year of a computer science honors degree.
>
> I am having great difficultys when it comes to coding and reading code

> using window eyes/jaws.
>
> I understand that alot of computer programmers use braille displays? 
> However, I can not read braille so a braille display is out of the
option 
> for me.
>
> Where I'm coming unstuck is when it comes to reading somebody elses
code, 
> and deciphering it, to then go and modify/add to it.
>
> As many of you know when it comes to reading text we have three main 
> methods.
>
> 1.  By character.
>
> 2.  By word.
>
> 3.  By line.
>
> Of course we have further application specifics, such as sentence, 
> paragraph etc.  However, these do not help when it comes to reading 
> computer code.
>
> My problems with the reading methods are below.  Note:  I accept I may
not 
> be implamenting these methods as efficiently as I could be.  So am
open to 
> suggestions.
>
> A.  I find reading by character is slow and cumbersome.
>
> B.  Reading by word comes unstuck when we introduce symbols such as <
> () 
> [] {} " etc.
>
> For example,.
>
> Take the string of text,
>
> http://www.google.com
>
> If we try and read that by word, we get the hole string.  Not,
>
> "
> Http:
> //
> www
> .
> google
> .
> com
> "
> C.  By line unless you are fluent with code is hard to pick up exactly

> what the line of code is saying.
>
> My fellow sighted students have the advantage of using development 
> languages that take advantage of formatting such as, indentation,
colour 
> coding etc. This makes it much easier for them to see what a piece of
code 
> is calling/performing/referencing etc.
>
> While I can have Window Eyes/Jaws announce formatting changes.  This
is 
> yet more information to have to take in along with the codes syntax. 
> Additionally it is not just a line that changes colour but often 
> words/symbols within that code as well.
>
> Is there anyone out there who has ran into these difficultys and can
offer 
> suggestions?  I'm literally getting tension headaches because of this.
>
> My lecturer has began spending some extra time with me, explaining the

> logic.  I am grasping these concepts, it's simply when it comes to
coding 
> I freak out.
>
> I'm also going to try and break the problems down into some
understandable 
> sudo code for myself.
>
> So I'll work the problem out in English and then go and find the code
that 
> performs each statement.
>
> I'm going to have to spend alot of time on this one module, which is a

> hard fact but it's either that or don't proceed with my degree.  Which

> would be a real shame as I enjoy computing and I have the technical 
> knowledge and understanding to complete this degree, witha  fair
amount of 
> hard graft.
>
> Help!
>
> Barry
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