I agree completely and absolutely with Tracey's view on this matter. Nothing to add at all. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tracey Kier Sent: 20 August 2004 18:40 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Problem with list Hi Steve. Sorry, but I'd have to vote no on this one. For one thing, it relies on people remembering to do it, and I'd be as bad as the next person at doing that, particularly as I'm on a whole bunch of lists and would more than likely forget that I had to include my name in the subject line for this one. Also, subject lines aren't actually that long, so by the time you've put your name in there, and then tried to add something concise to let other list members know what your query relates to, it's likely you're going to run out of room, or not going to be able to give a good enough idea of your query to get constructive help from the list. Personally, I'd rather run the risk of having my e-mail address spammed than have to remember to put my name in every subject line. Not to mention how complicated it's going to get if you're replying to someone's message, either having to take their name out and pput yours in, or ending up leaving out the part of the subject line that relates to the query. Just my two cents, and obviously I'll go along with the majority view. Tracey. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Dryden" <sdryden@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 6:19 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Problem with list > George, the idea is pretty good. I wonder what you guys might think about keeping it but just add your name in the subject heading? > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:40 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Problem with list > > > OK. I hold my hands up here. My fault. Let me > try and explain. > > The change had actually been made with good > intentions, and in all of your interests. The > idea of not displaying the Sender's address was to > try and prevent e-mail address harvesting programs > (known collectively as "Robots") from collecting > all of your addresses, for the purpose of adding > them to spamming lists. > > The alternative is to have to approve each > application for membership in an effort to ensure > such robots don't join for a short period, and > then leave after collecting the data they want. > However, this would just make the joining process > more tedious, and cause the moderators too much > extra work. > > However, clearly you all don't like this change, > so it's back as it was. > > George Bell. > -- No attachments (even text) are allowed -- > -- Type: application/ms-tnef > -- File: winmail.dat > > > ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** vacation ## d > ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. > ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** vacation ## d > ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. > ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** vacation ## d ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 19/08/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 19/08/04 ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** vacation ## d ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq