[access-uk] Re: Please can somebody explain this?

  • From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone871@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:24:35 -0000

Ok, fair enough, I didn't think of that. Having said that, I'd be surprised
if you could make reverse charges from such numbers for this very reason.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Aedan O'Meara
Sent: 12 January 2014 17:10
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Please can somebody explain this?

Hi,
I assume the caller has one of those money making numbers like the sex
lines. The scam is to make  the connection to your phone use this line. I am
quite sure this is technically possible by these geniuses. 
I am sure you have been getting the foreign callers claiming to be Microsoft
ringing to speed up your sick PC!. These characters caught a sighted and
knowledgable colleague of mine who carried out their instructions and then
saw all his files on his wifes business PC fly up the screen andout to these
unmentionable persons. He had to change all cards and passwords etc for the
whole business! Anything is possible to these persons. 
Kind regards
Aedan. 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Alex Stone
Sent: 12 January 2014 16:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Please can somebody explain this?

Aedan, I don't understand this, the person making a reverse charge call
doesn't get any money, only the phone company. Also surely you were asked if
y ou would accept a reverse charge call in the first place?
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Aedan O'Meara
Sent: 12 January 2014 12:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Please can somebody explain this?

Hi Colin,
I suspect that this is an attempt to collect money from your account by
ringing a number on reverse charge. This scam happened to me at work about
10 years ago. I answered the phone here in Cork at work and heard a violent
row taking place supposedly in an office and this went on for about 10
minutes!. It dawned on me at last that the whole thing was a recording! And
designed to keep me on the line as long as possible. I reported this to my
employer and a general alert was issued. The longer you stayed on the more
money the call was making in reverse charges!
Could this be of the same type?
Kind regards
Aedan. 


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jonathan H
Sent: 12 January 2014 10:32
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Please can somebody explain this?

Right, I can tell you exactly what's happened in the first instance, as it's
happened to me several times.

Basically, there are thousands of dodgy people sitting in hundreds of dodgy
call centres throughout the world waiting to rip you off for worthless Sky
box insurance, PPI reclaim, mobile contracts or, most likely, to tell you
they're from Microsoft and your computer has a virus (as you know, they're
definitely not!).

Their autodiallers dial hundreds of numbers in sequence, and when it detects
someone there (usually through them pressing 9 to be connected) then it
connects with an available con artist/scammer. In this case, it sounds like
you answering machine message made the software think it was a person,
therefore you heard the connection.

BUT WAIT! Here's where it gets utterly confusing for me: 1571 is a
centralised messaging system - it takes calls either when the line is busy,
or after a timeout. It's not based physically on the customer line, and it's
not at their property. It cannot record a call in progress. Not even with a
crossed line (extremely unlikely these days).
So the bit at 1m42 where he says "hello" - that's clear. But then I hear
what sounds like you, IN THE ROOM saying hello. Clearly you're NOT as
barking mad as to be talking to an answering machine, so where I'm lost is
on how your voice got onto the recording. And also, the words "to hear" from
"to hear this message again" is missing.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I'm not entirely sure we're hearing
or being told the whole story here...


On 12 January 2014 09:53, Tony Cretney <rac@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


        I have just got through the link without any problems but cannot
explain the situation.  

        Tony 

         

        From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jonathan H
        Sent: 11 January 2014 22:18
        To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [access-uk] Re: Please can somebody explain this?

         

        I'm intrigued but the link is broken.. I just get 404

        On Jan 11, 2014 9:11 PM, "Colin Howard" <colin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        Greetings,
        
        Please play the short file from Dropbox, it will explain all, I
shall leave
        it available until Saturday, 2014/01/18 mid day UK time.
        
        File Name:
        Strange 1 5 7 1 Message.mp3
        
        Modified down Load Link:
        
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7644179/Strange%201%205%207%201%20messag
e.mp3?dl=1
        
        
        
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