[access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

  • From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 15:46:31 -0000

Hi John

There are a lot of people for whom this particular scenario would be
impossible.  I know people who can't use Smart devices because of dexterity
issues, for example.  There are people who can't cope with touchscreen
technology, so what do they do?  It's ok to say you can make a big purchase
and download an app to do so, but it has to be concerning as this method
gets more popular, (frown).

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Email: Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
john gallagher
Sent: 27 February 2018 15:40
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

i wonder what would happen if this sort of thing happen to where one had to
get on a train or a bus because we cannot do it or some of us what would
happen then i still feel for some people it will be impossible for them to
do. noone seems to be fighting our cause now a days.

----- Original Message -----
From: goshawk on horseback  <goshawk_on_horseback@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, 27 February 2018 3:01 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops



totally seconded, plus it can be a pane to get out as well! the sooner 
it gets done away with, the better!

Simon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops


Hi Jackie,

What an old-fashioned notion, cash. <Big Smile>.

Seriously, I can't wait to get rid of cash, it's the least secure 
method of carrying money.

I carry less and less of it about nowadays, I love Android Pay.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 February 2018 12:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

Or, better still, why not take some cash?

Kind regards,

Jackie Brown
Email: Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
Check out my website: www.thebrownsplace.info Follow me on Twitter:
@thebrownsplace Skype name: thejackmate

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 February 2018 12:04
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

Iain,

That is correct, the speech is silenced, audible clicks are still 
there and the screen curtain provides privacy.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: 27 February 2018 11:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

That turns speech off but leaves VoiceOver still running. The screen 
Curtain is a function of VoiceOver.

Iain

On 27 Feb 2018, at 11:36 am, <michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx>
<michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

Don't know how easy this would be, sometimes I turn voice over off 
with a double triple tap, this keeps screen curtain on and you can 
press the buttons if you listen for the "clicks" working from the 
bottom up you can go up the center; 0 8 5 2 and locate the side 
numbers too. I know it isn't a perfect option, just trying to get a
work-around meantime.

Kindest,

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Redacted sender "david.g3yxx" for DMARC
Sent: 27 February 2018 11:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

Mike

Not practical

For example, on older touch screen devices, you could use ordinary 
headphones.
On more recent ones, they have a bespoke connector

ATB

David W Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 February 2018 10:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

Hi,

Would it be an idea to keep a set of earphones handy and ensure the 
screen curtain is on when entering details?

Kindest,

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Redacted sender "martinwilsher" for DMARC
Sent: 27 February 2018 10:41
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

This is an issue I came across some time ago in a local take out.  I 
told them the problems, and gave them advice.  we came to an 
arrangement about payment with an app the shop used, they refunded 
me the standing charge for the app if I used that to place order, as 
the app
was accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Clive Lever
Sent: 27 February 2018 10:37
To: vi-genaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'BCAB 
Discussion List' <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops

Hello all,



First, please excuse the cross-posting. I apologise in advance, 
especially to those who may receive this message three times, once 
per list. However, I and a number of others feel this is an 
important enough
issue to warrant it.





It has come to the attention of members of another list, that some 
restaurants and shops are no longer offering chip and PIN machines 
when the time comes to pay the bill. Instead, people are being 
presented with an IPad belonging to the service provider 
organisation, and are expected to type their PIN in on a silent, flat
touchscreen.
In one case reported, the customer felt they had no alternative but 
to divulge their PIN number to a member of staff. I've seen this in 
my mobile phone service provider outlet in town. Has anyone here 
ever been embarrassed or frustrated when given an inaccessible piece 
of technology through which to make their payments? The people on 
the other
list (New College Worcester Former Students'
Association) would like to get an idea of the scale of this problem, 
and suggestions as to how it could be resolved, so that they can 
bring the issue into the light and campaign for change. Yes, I know 
that IPads are accessible, but you wouldn't want to turn voiceover 
on, on someone else's IPad in an open plan restaurant, and have it 
announce your personal details to the world at large as you type. At 
my Phone Supplier shop, they suggested turning speech on and playing 
my input back through the shop's Public Address system!



Best,

Clive




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