Hi all,
So if you're single, go get yourself a sighted partner, and all will be
well...or will it? (smile)
Best,
Clive
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:04 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
That sounds like the best method to me. <Smile>.
Trouble is, my wife is blind also, so she'd have the same access problems.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim Williams
Sent: 28 February 2018 10:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi Steve and list,
I have one alternative payment method I use in restaurants. I invite my wife
out for a meal, she pays and we settle up later (grin).
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 8:51 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Contactless. It doesn't need Internet either.touchscreen.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Jim Williams
Sent: 27 February 2018 22:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi,
And what if there happened to be a major Internet melt down for a
couple of days or weeks, got any cash on you anyone?
Jim Williams
----- Original Message -----
From: "goshawk on horseback" <goshawk_on_horseback@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:42 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
again, that's all well and good, but again, what about those of us
who find getting hold of pesky cash a major pane?
Simon
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From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi Steve
My goodness! How did everyone manage before then? Yes people get
mugged and much worse, and it's just awful. But try saying cash
should be outlawed to someone with Parkinsons or MS or Motor Neurone
diseases? Their independence and quality of life is already so
compromised, so add insult to injury by taking away their basic right
to buy food and whatever else by forcing them to use something they
never could? Sorry and all that, but there has to be a middle ground
for things like this, it can't all be about hugging your Smartphone
for every single thing you do in life!
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
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Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 27 February 2018 16:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi Jackie,
I do look at the wider picture, but I don't think saying use cash is
the answer.
Nothing worse than going out for a meal with a hundred quid in your
back pocket, then getting mugged.
Your cash gets stolen, so you don't get any money back. At least if
you use a credit card, you are protected somewhat by the credit card
company if the card gets stolen and can easily get a refund.
Heck, if I compromised your card details and took money out, your
bank would give it back. Try that with stolen cash.
It's about time cash died.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 February 2018 15:12
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi Steve
But that's you, not everyone is the same, and you have to take that
into account. The point is that if you offer to pay for a meal with
cash or your usual debit or credit card, and the proprietor insists
you use a touchscreen or, even worse, asks for your PIN so it can be
entered, that isn't acceptable! You have to look at the wider picture
Steve, not just what you can do with a Smart device.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: 27 February 2018 14:41
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi Jackie,
What an old-fashioned notion, cash. <Big Smile>.
Seriously, I can't wait to get rid of cash, it's the least secure
method of carrying money.
I carry less and less of it about nowadays, I love Android Pay.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 27 February 2018 12:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Or, better still, why not take some cash?
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 February 2018 12:04
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Iain,
That is correct, the speech is silenced, audible clicks are still
there and the screen curtain provides privacy.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: 27 February 2018 11:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
That turns speech off but leaves VoiceOver still running. The screen
Curtain is a function of VoiceOver.
Iain
On 27 Feb 2018, at 11:36 am, <michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx><michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
work-around meantime.
Hi,
Don't know how easy this would be, sometimes I turn voice over off
with a double triple tap, this keeps screen curtain on and you can
press the buttons if you listen for the "clicks" working from the
bottom up you can go up the center; 0 8 5 2 and locate the side
numbers too. I know it isn't a perfect option, just trying to get a
was accessible.
Kindest,
Mike
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Behalf Of Redacted sender "david.g3yxx" for DMARC
Sent: 27 February 2018 11:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Mike
Not practical
For example, on older touch screen devices, you could use ordinary
headphones.
On more recent ones, they have a bespoke connector
ATB
David W Wood
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of michaelmoorehere@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 February 2018 10:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hi,
Would it be an idea to keep a set of earphones handy and ensure the
screen curtain is on when entering details?
Kindest,
Mike
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Redacted sender "martinwilsher" for DMARC
Sent: 27 February 2018 10:41
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
This is an issue I came across some time ago in a local take out. I
told them the problems, and gave them advice. we came to an
arrangement about payment with an app the shop used, they refunded
me the standing charge for the app if I used that to place order, as
the app
issue to warrant it.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Clive Lever
Sent: 27 February 2018 10:37
To: vi-genaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'BCAB
Discussion List' <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Paying for goods via Touchscreens in shops
Hello all,
First, please excuse the cross-posting. I apologise in advance,
especially to those who may receive this message three times, once
per list. However, I and a number of others feel this is an
important enough
It has come to the attention of members of another list, that some
restaurants and shops are no longer offering chip and PIN machines
when the time comes to pay the bill. Instead, people are being
presented with an IPad belonging to the service provider
organisation, and are expected to type their PIN in on a silent, flat
In one case reported, the customer felt they had no alternative butlist (New College Worcester Former Students'
to divulge their PIN number to a member of staff. I've seen this in
my mobile phone service provider outlet in town. Has anyone here
ever been embarrassed or frustrated when given an inaccessible piece
of technology through which to make their payments? The people on
the other
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bring the issue into the light and campaign for change. Yes, I know
that IPads are accessible, but you wouldn't want to turn voiceover
on, on someone else's IPad in an open plan restaurant, and have it
announce your personal details to the world at large as you type. At
my Phone Supplier shop, they suggested turning speech on and playing
my input back through the shop's Public Address system!
Best,
Clive
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