I'm not aware of Panasonic DVD recorders with speech. I've had a Panasonic hard disk recorder for a couple of years now, and when I bought it, I went in to considerable detail on list of how, after some initial sighted help, it is pretty accessible. It seemed to me that most people on list didn't want to go to the trouble of making the effort to learn some basic operating steps. For my part, I have been using this recorder happily, and of course will be delighted when the day comes where I can operate one, or a TV set with everything built-in, strait out of the box, but for the mean time, as with all things, we either give up, or find work around. I tend to stay out of those threads where people just moan about how little there is for us, some of us that have lived a while, are able to see how much there is for us, while recognizing we are not all the way there yet. I'm grateful to all those that campaign and lobby for more equality, but if one is always 'waiting' for it all to be perfect, then all one will do is wait -
Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:29 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Panasonic TV recorders
I have owned a Panasonic hard disk based DVD recorder for some years, and also combed their existing ranges relatively recently with a view to replacement which in the event I have declined. I have never come across any with speech recently or in the past. Panasonic are generally known to make decent kit but have no track record in accessibility which is quite interesting considering Japan is known to have one the fastest ageing populations.These kinds of hard disk Freeview style recorders have a much more limited market as opposed most TVs, even smart TVs. The latter are beginning to get full operating systems like Linux and Android built into them. This is why those machines may have at least the potential to provide speech access.The hard disk recorders are a different price proposition and probably won't carry speech. I wouldn't want to speak on behalf or be apologist for Goodmans/RNIB but I expect that it was a considerable push to get their unit with speech to limbo down to the price bracket it sits at. More margin would probably allow them to make further refinements to stability but that ends in putting up its ticket price which is already somewhat more than average consumers would expect to pay for the same kind of item.Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Technical Support Sight and Sound Technology -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of YusufSent: 19 March 2012 14:13 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Panasonic TV recorders Interesting, I didn't know that any of those sorts of devices had speech on. If you do find anything out will you post to the list? Yusuf On 19/03/2012 13:40, Mark Threadgold wrote:Yusuf,The recorders I mean have nothing to do the the new TV and have, as far as I was aware, beenaround for a year or so. These are the independent recorderunits with built in freeserve receivers, DVD and hard disk recording facility. Mark Threadgold Of all the things I have ever lost, The one I miss most is my mind... -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfYusuf Sent: 19 March 2012 13:24 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Panasonic TV recorders Mark, From what I could tell it was the TV's speech that gave you access to the external Hard disk recorder. Yusuf On 19/03/2012 13:16, Mark Threadgold wrote:Does anyone have any model numbers of the Panasonic DVD and hard disk TV recorders that have the built in speech output, please. I was told today in Comet that none of the Panasonic range of hard diskandDVD recorders have speech built into them, only the new range of TV's. Iamsure the Panasonic have had speech in their recorders for some time butwasadvised I was wrong by a Panasonic area rep. 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