[access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
- From: "ANDY COLLINS" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:16:32 +0100
Hi Kevin -
I'm still using Adobe8 cos I thought more recent versions might not work with
JFW9?
When I clicked the PDF link, I had no file options available to me, so couldn't
even save as PDF to start with! -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Lloyd
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi Andy.
I did get the reading order dialogue so may be worth checking how up to date
your Adobe is. I've replied off list but I was able firstly to save the PDF in
my documents and then was able to save as text. When a PDF document is opened
directly online, you don't normally get the save as text option available but
you can usually save as PDF to your own hard drive and once there, you can open
and you should see the save as text option now available.
Doesn't look like there's any useful text in that document at all...
Regards.
Kevin
E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: ANDY COLLINS
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi Kevin - just to add, I don't get the opportunity to change the reading
order or anything, and can't access the menu to save as txt -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Lloyd
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:33 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi Andy.
Have you tried changing the reading order when you open the PDF document?
Is it asking you if you want to read it as recommended, left to right or raw
stream? Sometimes changing these settings will give a better result and I've
found a number of documents that read better with the raw stream setting.
You could also save as text and read the text document instead of the PDF
if that's easier.
Happy to have a look at it if you want to send it to my e-mail address
below though I'm using JAWS 11 rather than 9.
Regards.
Kevin Lloyd
E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: ANDY COLLINS
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 4:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi clive -
Just an update--I have had a reply to my email sent to the producer of
that PDF file. He tells me that it isn't a scanned document, but a text doc
saved as a PDF.
Wonder why JFW is having problems with it then -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF difficulty
Hi Andy,
do you know whether the content is actually text, or if it is really
the scanned image of a printout of what started its life as text? This would
certainly give a result visible to the sighted reader and inaudible to a JAWS
(or other speech output) user.
Please excuse me if this is a read herring. I've seen that particular
trick turned before. It's not good practice, but sadly it happens more often
than it should.
Best,
Clive
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Clive
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
Sent: 27 April 2011 14:40
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] PDF difficulty
Hi all -
Sometimes when I click on a PDF doc, the processing starts, but JAWS
[9] can't see anything. Using the JAWS cursor, I can read a line that says "1/2
29.4 percent find"
I understand that this means 29.4 percent of page 1, and there are 2
pages to process, and that the "find" is to search the document, but can't
figure out how to make the document visible to JAWS. Sighted help tells me the
document is visible on screen, but trying to use the "find facility to search
for a word that is visible to the eye, reports no results. I also notice that
hitting the ALT key doesn't bring up the menu bar.
Any help please? -
Andy
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