[access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS

  • From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:54:53 -0000

Don't want to waiste your time, or anyone elses over this, but I'll
just throw out to quickies.

Looking at Disability Now's website - which seems to have much to
commend it - I couldn't help wondering if some sort of conversion to
HTML, XHMXHTML, mightn't benefit you almost as much as PDF.  As far as
I recall though, you have a bit of sight so no doubt you can get a
good idea of the loook look of an article, as well as its content, and
getting down to the content and style, which of course you have to be
able to read.

Wonder if you have put anything out on the BCAB list?  Might be some
there, and one or two in the media and who have to work along side
those preparing for DTP layout programs and interchanging with them.

There's some hope Leonie will chip in if any of this helps you at all
in the least.

Cheers, and do hope you come up with a workable solution.

From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
Ian Macrae

Ray, you're right about the Mac issue.  But the whole point of
proofing is that you have to see files in the final form in which
they'll ultimately be sent to pre-press and then the printers.  I've
already tried turning the files into text but that process in itself
generates errors which aren't there in the PDF originals.  One option
might be to emboss the files into hard copy Braille from the PDFs, but
again it would require a very accurate transcription programme.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ray's Home
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:13 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS

I fear it isn't much help to assk what format these files, or master
documents are in before they've been converted to PDF, is it?

I only ask because maybe rather than giving them to you in PDF they
could be saved, maybe, from the format they were created in?  Maybe to
RTF or something?

I've a horrible feeling this could bring in issues of what platform
others are working with. A Mac maybe?  (NOt blaming Macs as such, just
that, maybe they see PDF as the natural choice of interchange.  Still,
won't speculate further, as that's all it is.


From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Ian Macrae
Sent: 2 November 2007 8:58PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS

To elaborate my problem, I have to finally proof read pages for a
magazine before they're committed to Quark Express files for pre-press
and printing.  It simply doesn't seem possible with Jaws V8 and PDF?
I'd imagine Quark is even less likely to be a runner?  does anyone
have any suggestions or ideas?  Of course, the  whoe point of proofing
is accuracy otherwise I'd print them and run them through K1000.
----- Original Message -----
From: Léonie Watson
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PDF & JAWS


    As Adrian says, resolution isn't known to affect the accessibility
of a PDF. The font face may be a factor though. Some fonts can be
harder for a screen reader to pick up and interpret, particularly the
more ornate ones. Just a thought.


From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ian Macrae
Sent: 02 November 2007 15:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] PDF & JAWS

Does the resolution of a PDF file make any difference to Jaws 8['s
ability to read it?

Ian Macrae
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