[access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:31:52 -0000
Cheers for that Steve!
Barry
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Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:08 PM
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Hi Barry,
http://www.comproom.co.uk/EntombedSetup.exe
All the best
Steve
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Barry Toner
Sent: Wednesday 24 March 2010 19:08
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
Can someone please download In Tombed for me and stick it on Sendspace or
the like?
The download dies every single time it hits 99%. The connection just gets
dropped. Have tried it about 7 times over the past 24hours.
Cheers,
Barry
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Amro Bilal
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:51 PM
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Hi Hussein, just been to blindcooltech.com and I could actually find two
other podcasts on FS in addition to the one I mentioned! Not sure how I can
help or what you want me to do? Do you want the exact title of the podcasts?
I searched the BCT site for "flight" using the Jaws Find feature and came up
with three results. There might be more...
If you need more help feel free to write back.
Cheers,
Amro
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From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:41 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
Hi,
Could you possibly find that podcast on FlightSim? That would be
interesting to see how he does it. I still have all the addons and aircraft
I bought from when I used to play it.
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Amro Bilal
Sent: 24 March 2010 13:33
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
Someone said that they long to play Microsoft Flight Sim - there's a podcast
on Blind Cool Tech by a blind kid who demonstrates how to play it without a
sight.
Re quality of games for the blind I tried most of the ones where mentioned
here and I totally agree they are no match to the mainstream games and that
there's a lot of room for improvement in the sound quality and storylines.
But the thing is that games are visual by nature and I'm not sure if the
games for the blind can actually be as good and I particularly mean those
games that involve shooting and stuff. I myself tend to enjoy text adventure
games such as those from InfoTech.
Cheers,
Amro
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From: Barry Toner
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
David,
Re: Same quality of sounds.
There's loads of SFX librarys out there, the BBC, Hollywood SFX etc.
Heck, I'd even by a dev a set if they promised it would be used.
I don't think it's a case of standards. I recognize it's going to be the
same, hey ho we're missing a sense. So it's illogical to therefore think
it's going to be the same. I don't think standards have to slip though.
This issue is as much about inclusion as entertainment and lessons can be
learned by discussing past experiences say as a sighted person.
You never know we might just have the next VI Senior DEV or CEO for a huge
gaming company on this list. How better for them to find out what allot of
us are longing for if we can't mix and mash the two gaming areanas. That
being sighted and non-sighted in a discussion.
It's big picture and not off topic.
Barry.
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David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:42 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
Not sure why we are talking about games which are obviously not for the
Blind, and cannot be played by the blind. So I am going to discuss games
played by blind people as I have never played games for the sighted.
My first experience of these games were games designed for and played on the
Eureka. I quite enjoyed some of these, particularly the Infocom games.
Some of the pc games made for the blind have been fun to play. the GMA
games are pretty good, and I had a lot of fun with "Shades of Doom".
Unfortunately, some of the producers of games for the blind had to give up
working on new games because too many blind people were pirating the games
so not enough were being sold to make it worthwhile. There were also some
fairly good BSC Games, one called "Troopanom" I think was okay. some people
have tried to work on sports games, but nothing has really been
satisfactory.
The latest arrival on the games scene to my knowledge is Q9, which is one of
those games where you follow an arrival from space and try to get him
through various levels, fighting monsters and wild animals through jungles
and caves. This is nothing too complicated, mainly relying on fast
reactions, but it has passed a few hours for me.
There are also the Bavisoft games, although I am not sure whether they are
still producing new ones.
There used to be many mailing lists for games, but most of these appear to
have been disbanded.
It would be good to have some new games, but it is unrealistic to expect the
same sounds and standards of production you get from games for the sighted.
Blind gamers are just not going to buy in sufficient quantities for
companies to make a profit.
I am sure there are one or two I have not mentioned, one called "Pipe" comes
to mind. I just wanted to discuss games for the blind rather than games for
the previously sighted.
David
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Mike Moore
Sent: 24 March 2010 09:20
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: PC and Online games for the VI?
Hi Barry and all,
Firstly, good to have you back Barry....
Going back to older games, the Commodore c64, remember the tapes?? Well
there was a game called Uridium, it was a horizontal scrolling shoot 'em up
where you were in a small space ship, graphics were not spectacular;
compared to todays, but has a lot of the play-ability not suffered as a
result? Another example was Speedball 2 on the Amiga, graphics, nothing
special but really enjoyable 2 player ice hockey-esque by Bitmap brothers.
Mike
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