[access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
- From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:54:40 -0000
Hi Ray.
I've heard a load of very good reports on Studio Recorder. Apparently,
according to Michael Lang and Larry Skutchan, it is perhaps the most
accessible Digital editor available. I would not mind trying it out, though
I'm a bit of a GoldWave perve myself.
I agree, to some extent, on your comment that the BCT podcasts are a bit
overly drawn out. Why are you sounding so surprised? Go into any academic
library and read an American textbook and you'll soon discover that they
tend to talk to death a subject, where the same subject on a British book is
covered in a few paragraphs.
Nevertheless, I love them all at Blind Cool Tech. We really need more lists
just like this to examine and discuss just about every issue affecting blind
and visually impaired people and the technology they may choose to overcome
difficulties. It's really a fantastic list to be a part of and you are kept
up to date with new technology, from hundreds of list members.
As to why podcasts are normally processed as MP3's, can this not be a way of
simplifying things and reducing the bandwidth of uploads? Not really sure
about this. Perhaps, mp3 is an accepted format that suits most people. I
don't know. Does it matter too much?
Best wishes.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
> Yes Andy and others, I realise many, if not most people, will clean up
> recordings in an editor before uploading - though I must say given the
> inordinate length some BCT podcasts go on for, I wonder if many of them do
> much
> if any editing.
>
> Of course when one has an audio editor not only can one do the tidying but
> also
> conversion to any format supported by the editor can be done.
>
> Seems little to beat Goldwave in this respect, although Studio Recorder
> from APH
> also has a lot going for it, even if it is more expensive than goldwave.
> I have
> heard rumours for some time that Studio Recorder may be due for some very
> substantial enhancements in future so I look forward with anticipation to
> what's
> going to emerge.
>
> Sorry to repeat myself, but does anyone know if MP3 is obligatory for
> Podcasts?
> Or is it simply the norm?
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> Of Andy Logue
>
>
> Hi Ray.
>
> Most people that produce podcasts use a digital editor of one sort or
> another, just to iron out the creases so to speak. Many use SoundForge
> which costs about £300. This is a really professional digital editor and
> I
> believe extends the needs of many currently using it. Personally, I use a
> program called GoldWave. GW or GoldWave costs about £25 and it's very
> accessible. Not only do I use it for editing podcasts, but just about for
> everything else. It turns your computer into a tape recorder. I record
> BBC2's Album Chart Show amongst others, for listening to on another
> device.
> I also split wrapped CD's and edit these prior to burning onto a CD. I've
> been using GW for about five years and could not do without it.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:37 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>
>
>> podcasts need to be in mp3 format so is there software available to
>> convert
>> from wma to MP3? can Winamp or Windows Media player do this?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 2:24 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>
>>
>> I tend to think you may have a point Andy in the comments you're making
>> about
>> the DS50, although I've not bought one. I think the truth is that
>> although
>> it's
>> limited to recording in WMA format, max 128 kbs I think quite a few will
>> settle
>> for that, and swapping evaluations in WMA at 96 kbs I've not been as
>> disappointed as I thought I'd be.
>>
>> The DS50 has , it is some nice playback options when reviewing recorded
>> material
>> too. This and more you can hear about in Michael Lang's review at:
>>
>> http://www.longus.info/
>>
>> Yes, of course sound tagging of functions as used in this machine, is
>> always
>> going to be limited and certainly less than perfect, but at least for
>> much
>> of
>> the time blind people won't be totally unaware of where they are in the
>> machine's functions. I know of people who are going to welcome this
>> machine
>> for
>> its inconspicuousness on location and its built-in speaker too. I think
>> it
>> should be judged substantialy on what it's being marketed to do,
>> conference
>> and
>> meeting recordings, as well as dictation. Whether its the right thing
>> for
>> Podcasting I'm not sure, but you will find many users who just want to
>> get
>> on
>> and do it are going to find the quality good enough.
>>
>> As something of a purist I would prefer a machine that would record in
>> .wav
>> format but this isn't where this machine is placed in the market. agree
>> with
>> the unnecessary high UK price, but we've been there before.
>>
>> There's lots on it now on BCT but Michael Lang is more concise. Neal
>> Ewers
>> as
>> good as he his, is often a bit too long winded in his reviews for my
>> tastes.
>> There's someone else too on BCT who has done a DS50 review or two.
>>
>> So, folks, listen to what's being said, and make your own mind up.
>>
>> From Ray
>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
>> Of Andy Logue
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve.
>>
>> You can always convert to mp3 using GoldWave as I do. It is a great
>> machine
>> for creating Podcasts as I'm currently doing. The quality is superb and
>> I'd
>> be surprised if the Ederal could match it. I think it's a little unfair
>> to
>> keep referring to it as a dictation machine. when it clearly is not.
>> However, it is perfect for recording the human voice and the built-in
>> microphone will easily pick up anything from a class to a large lecture
>> hall. It has an index system that enables the user to mark particular
>> points in the recording which they wish to return to quickly. It has a
>> built in speaker for easy monitoring of recordings, without the need of a
>> pair of headphones, and I'm still, after two weeks of heavy use, on my
>> first
>> set of batteries. You ought to try and get your hands on one to check it
>> out Steve. I could have paid a little more and got an Ederal, but I'm
>> glad
>> I didn't.
>>
>> Best wishes.
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:35 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>>
>>> 250 pounds, when you can get it for 249 dollars in the States? You were
>>> ripped off!
>>>
>>> Anyway, I am one of those silly people you speak of. A machine like the
>>> DS50 can't even record in MP3 format, and yet they call it a Podcast
>>> machine. It is, and remains, a good dictation machine, but that's about
>>> =
>>> it.
>>>
>>> All the best
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> =
>>> Of
>>> Andy Logue
>>> Sent: 15 February 2007 19:59
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>>
>>> Hi John.
>>>
>>> The Olympus DS series has been demoed by a number of people on this list
>>> =
>>> and
>>> you could download the files to listen to at your own convenience, by
>>> visiting the following address and clicking on the appropriate link:
>>> http://www.blindcooltech.com/.
>>> Personally, I'd pay attention to those files created by a Mr. Neal =
>>> Ewers as
>>> these looked deep into all aspects of this device.
>>>
>>> I purchased the Olympus DS50 from a British company at:
>>> http://www.iansyst.co.uk/reviews/ds40-review/
>>> For about =A3250 and I'd highly recommend it.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that many folks on this list are Ederal lovers and =
>>> currently
>>> live under the misapprehension that their Ederal devices are God's own
>>> little children and they will do everything within their powers to =
>>> change
>>> your mind and encourage you to purchase one of these, other than any =
>>> other
>>> digital recorders. Don't listen to them! There are others on this list
>>> =
>>> who
>>> have opted for a device known as the Zoom Recorder, who likewise, live
>>> outwith reality. The day will come when all of the people on this list
>>> =
>>> will
>>> arrive at the conclusion that the Olympus DS50 is the best of them all,
>>> hahaha.
>>>
>>> You were looking for a British user of the DS50. I'm from Scotland! Do
>>> =
>>> I
>>> qualify?
>>>
>>> Please get back to me if you need any more information on this fantastic
>>> little device and ignore all the silly responses on the list that this
>>> message may cause.
>>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>>
>>> Andy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:25 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Olympus DS-50 Voice Recorder / MP3 player
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I have come across this Olympus DS-50 unit on a different list.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like it could be very useful indeed as it has voice output =
>>> for=20
>>>> its
>>>> controls.
>>>>
>>>> A description of it can be found on www.olympus.co.uk if you are=20
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any experience of using one of these in the UK?
>>>>
>>>> From a quick look around it would seem to cost about the same number =
>>> in=20
>>>> the
>>>> US and the UK, apart from the fact that the nice American folks pay in
>>>> dollars and we have to pay in pounds; so they get it for almost half =
>>> the
>>>> price, again.
>>>>
>>>> Could we purchase from the US and then buy a UK AC adaptor?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards, John.
>>>>
>>>> John Farley
>>>>
>>>> Personal Contact Work contact
>>>> Phone : 01442 259243 01923 438172
>>>> Mobile: 07815 056076 07785 928755
>>>> Fax : 01442 437909
>>>> E-Mail: john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx john.farley@xxxxxxxx
>>>> =
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