[access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
- From: "Barry Hill" <barry.hill3@xxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 12:40:09 -0000
I think I might have a fit all phrase. How about *people with little or no
sight*? Perhaps the word 'little' needs some work, and we could maybe toy
with the word 'usable'.
Cheers
Barry
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Steve Nutt
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:33 PM
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Hi,
Sight loss is stupid if you are born blind. You can't lose what you never
had. So no, I don't like it either.
All the best
Steve
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Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 March 2015 12:30
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
Thanks David,
Where is the right forum to take this forward. My parting shot on this
subject is that I once caught an RNIB spokesperson on In Touch referring to:
"people born with sight loss"! I'd have fired him. They promoted him.
Best,
Clive
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 27 March 2015 12:25
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
Well isn't it the od Political Correctness?
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From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>I must say that although in my case I have had sight loss I agree with
>every thing said below and cannot understand why the RNIB could ever have
>thought that it is an appropriate term to generically describe us all.
>
> I think some genuine issues for concern have been raised. Maybe an online
> petition along the lines of the arguments below would be appropriate as
> there has not been a positive process of consultation as to the
> terminology/branding in our name.
> David Griffith
>
> On 27/03/2015 10:57, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Thanks Jackie.
>>
>> I think the re-branding from 'blind and partially-sighted people" to
>> "people with sight loss" is a significant step in the wrong direction,
>> but it confirms what many of us have thought for a long time - that they
>> are really not interested in the blind.
>>
>>
>> 1. As I was born with roughly the amount of sight I have, when I
>> read that, my gut instinct says: "Do they mean me? They surely don't!"
>>
>> 2. It leads to muddled thinking, in which some politicians now
>> think that congenitally blind people don't need financial support because
>> they have learned to cope throughout their lives...then the RNIB
>> criticises the politician for making such a crass statement, when it's
>> only the product of the seeds they have sown.
>>
>> 3. And most importantly, in the spirit of "nothing about us without
>> us", I don't recall the RNIB asking people whether they wanted to be
>> feferred to as 'having, experiencing, or even suffering' sight loss, so
>> the term smacks of being foisted upon us by sighted do-gooders.
>>
>> I wonder where is the best place to air these views and open the debate.
>> I know for certain that the profoundly Deaf community wouldn't put up
>> with this type of nonsense.
>>
>> Best,
>> Clive
>>
>>
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Jackie Brown
>> Sent: 27 March 2015 10:50
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>>
>> Hi Clive
>>
>> There is some rebranding going on as RNIB now has this RNIB Approved
>> feature as well.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jackie Brown
>> Emails:
>> thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
>> jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:jackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Website: www.thebrownsplace.info<http://www.thebrownsplace.info>
>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
>> Skype: thejackmate
>>
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: 27 March 2015 10:34
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Off-topic - RNIB Branding
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm not expecting a discussion here, but please can anyone tell me off
>> list when the strap-line on RNIB's web pages changed from:
>> "Supporting Blind and Partially-Sighted People" to:
>> "Supporting People with Sight Loss". The supplementary question is:
>> Why?
>> Best,
>> Clive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Clive Lever
>> Diversity and Equality Officer
>> Kent County Council
>>
>> Office: 03000 416388
>> Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>> Kent County Council
>> Room G37
>> Sessions House
>> Maidstone, Kent.
>> ME14 1XQ
>>
>>
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