[access-uk] Re: Notetakers again
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:45:50 -0000
Hi Jackie,
PK is 18 cell.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: 02 January 2008 16:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Notetakers again
Thanks Carol very much for that. I haven't seen either of them in their
current guises, but I have heard that PK is about the size of Braille 'N'
Speak, which is quite a nice size and weight. How many cells does PK have,
about 18 to 20?
Thanks again.
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Pearson <mailto:carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:33 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Notetakers again
Jackie,
Just breezing in here - the PK does have most of the facilities of the
mPower, though not all. You can't print, but I don't care about that. You
don't have the FM radio either, but again I don't want it. Maybe you can
write faster on the mPower, though personally I can write faster on the PK,
but they both have speed limits ... and everyone hates having to slow down!
Maybe I've forgotten some (half asleep today I'm afraid), but they're the
ones that readily spring to mind.
Incidentally, Mike has an mPower and I have a PK, so I use both whenever I
want, though primarily choose to go with the PK, partly because of its size
and weight. No there's not masses of difference, really, but enough,
especially if you have back problems and want to take something to write
everywhere you go!
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie <mailto:cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> Cairns
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Notetakers again
Terry, I reckon you've summed it up nicely. I had major issues with BN in
its original format when I was given Word documents to open that needed to
keep their formatting. It drove me utterly round the bend, so I had to
abandon it for complex work. I also absolutely detested its file structure.
It seemed to me that, back then, you had to put all your folders in the
route. If you made sub-folders within folders, you had a job getting to
them, and couldn't type in a path to get to them without doing something
really stupid if my memory serves me correctly. I thought PM was better and
easier in that regard. I could use ActiveSync no problem, but couldn't do
anything with a network, or even get it to recognise a card. But, for me, I
could wipe the floor with it when writing Braille. I was just too fast for
it by a mile. My friend with the PM also floored it when he had a
demonstration, which is why he opted for PM instead.
I thought GPS on it was very good though, even back then. I've heard it's
even better now.
The advice I give people now when they ask me directly about note-takers is
think about what you want it to do; who's paying for it; and if Braille
isn't a necessity, use a laptop because it'll do everything if lugging it
isn't a problem.
What is the difference overall between PK and MPower though, apart from
their size? What do you miss out on by having the MPower over the PK if
they are from the same stable? I'm only asking for reference purposes. I
have regular discussions with people who are in work or education, and they
ask me what they should go for. None I laugh (smile).
Thanks.
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Clasper <mailto:terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Notetakers again
Hi.
From a networking point of view the BN range is now very flexible, and
KeyWeb is OK although purely because I don't use it as much as my PC I
personally don't find it as intuitive as I would if I used it more.
There are however still some issues with file format. Now the M-Power and PK
does read word formats to a certain degree, although in fact all its doing
is using a Microsoft filter and converting the file before importing it into
keyword. The result is often that either the word format cannot be read, or
it gets messed up.
Tables, well again some issues here I'm afraid.
I find that basic tables are OK but tables which contain advanced formatting
again problematic.
My general view this whole topic for what it's worth is that there isn't one
notetaker that does everything.
I agree with Brian that the PacMate has lots of potential if you are able to
script, however falls down by default badly if you are a brailleist.
The BrailleNote range on the other hand whilst offering a great user
interface, and lots of overall stability lacks some of the things which busy
people need when on the move like a text and voice chat facility.
The best advice has to be talk to people who are independent and who
understand the product range and choices in detail, and if you can talk to
users particularly about stability reliability and the level of support you
get from the supplier.
Terry Clasper.
MSM: terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: terryclasper
Private E-Mail: terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Work E-Mail: terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: ari <mailto:aridamoulakis@xxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Notetakers again
Hi Deon,
I looked once at the ELba, but no go, as it hasn't been updated from 2005, I
don't know how well it's grade 2 support is, it can't even work with Word,
you have to apparrently convert them first, I wouldn't get it now, maybe
earlier or if it was updated, and it only has a USB port which can't takea
memory stick, because it can only receive data. I've heard of the Icon, but
their site says they won't send outside the US, and anyway, I've got no idea
of their braille or word processor.
Ari
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