Hi Ari, like you I got fed up of the PM and it's poor Braille support in particular. I tried a Braillino but found that it didn't really cut it as a full PDA although it's not bad as a notetaker. I've finally settled on the Braillenote mPower having first checked out the arguments put forward for it by Terry Clasper archived from a Techshare debate. The main things that recommend it to me as a user now are 1 it's Braille capability, it's designed from the ground up as a Braille device, 2. Humanware's customer support which is second to absolutely none in the sector and 3 it's intuitiveness of use. Ian Macrae Editor Disability Now 020 7619 7115 07791 150714 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 29 December 2007 12:50 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Notetakers again Hi all, Now that I hear about the Omni, their braille support isn't really being improved, I've been really fed up and disappointed using the Pac Mate at Uni with it's poor braille abilities, with pooror translation, having to write in computer braille, and it's useless second language support, not to mention the calendar. My question is, for a braille enthusiast like me, is the braillenote really my only other option. I'm hoping I could sort of trade the PM in for a BN, but what are the other options like, example a pda with pocket hal and a braille keyboard, or some other notetaker. I would like a powerful Word Processor and Diary, one that could even deal with books which contain tables, being able to mark important passages in some way also so that they show as marked on the braille display, and switching easily between languages such as German, I'm really not too concerned about internet connectivity and all the other functions. Another quite drastic option which I'd like to know more about is one of those Handitech displays which can also act as a notetaker, what is the Braillino like, how is it as a notetaker? Thanks Ari ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Scope is a registered charity number 208231. Visit our website at http://www.scope.org.uk This message, and any file(s) transmitted with it are confidential and are intended only for the person(s) to whom they have been addressed by the sender. This message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you believe it was transmitted to you in error, you are required to delete the message and any copies of it, and to notify the sender immediately. Any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution, or printing of this message or accompanying files, or unauthorised use of any information contained therein, by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message or in any file(s) transmitted with it are those of the author, and may not necessarily represent the views of Scope. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq