You cannot updae flash with Nimite anymore.----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Howard" <colin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:46 PMSubject: [access-uk] Ninite has been stopped by Adobe from letting us update the Flash player, Crap-ware Free
Greetings,Passing this on as received, I use Ninnit to update flash and other programsand not noticed any problems. I saw this on the VicugL group. From: From Jared The Cone Dog <terrieiphone@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:18:54 -0500I got this from a different list thought that you would like to read thisone, so read below Terrie ,Daily memo; Handle stress like a dog , if you can not eat it, or play with it , piss on it and walk away! ! Begin forwarded message: From: "Reginald George" <adapt@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 29 Meitheamh 2013 22:15:46 GMT-05:00 To: <real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <nut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Subject: [real-eyes] this is Old News, but Ninite has been stopped by Adobefrom letting us update the Flash player, Crap-ware Free Reply-To: real-eyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Yes in May, Update flash.org went away. I couldn't find the site of theoriginal news story, but this lovely rant by an effected blind individual isworth the read. Some would argue that we have no right to an adware free update experience, that if it's a pain for sighted folks it should be justas bad for us. Well maybe we got spoiled. Ninite.com is just the bomb for busy technicians like me that need a free and easy way to install softwareon multiple systems without junk and toolbars, and Adobe has taken some ofthat joy away. Just like Napster and WinMX, enjoy these services while they are here because If big corporations can find a way to squash it, it will besquashed. Reg Not cool, Adobe: Give the Ninite guys a job, not the middle finger . The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/01/adobe_says_no/ It's worse than you think.As a totally blind Geek, Adobe's site is a nightmare to navigate via ScreenReader Environment (SRE) such as Jaws by Freedom Scientific or NVDA.This issue is only compounded by Adobe's attempts to foist bundled crapware with the download, as I have to make Jaws read the page *twice* to make sureAdobe hasn't "helpfully included" anything.Once I've finally managed to get Adobe to understand that all I want is theupdate, then hit the download link, it's a crapshoot if it ever actually initiates the download. There's no audio "blip" to tell me I've got a Security Notification & need to Alt+N to the Notification Toolbar to accept the download, Control+J doesn'treport any files being downloaded, and UAC hasn't screamed for attention, so I'm left scratching my head wondering if I've actually activated the damnedlink.Hit it again, and this time, despite still no audio cues to the contrary, itgives me the "File Complete" ding to say it's done? WTF? Control+J, and lo & behold, it shows the Adobe installer as having finished downloading. When did it get there, because IE didn't seem to think it important enough to announce... *Sigh*Anyway, after getting the file, then using the Properties to Unblock it, andacknowledging UAC whining about "Not trusting unknown sources on the internet" (If only it knew!), the updater finally starts...Only to present a User Interface that, to put it quite bluntly, deserves tohave everyone at Adobe nailed to a tree limb & used as a Public Piñata. Unmarked & unlabeled buttons, Required Check Boxes that don't get read bythe SRE, elements the SRE can't find much less tell me about, and absolutely*ZERO* assistance from Adobe on the matter. IF I manage to get it to actually install the update, then it "helpfully" launches a website wanting to know how I feel about the experience. Really? You do *NOT* want to know how I really feel, because it involves Industrial grade Nail Guns, trees, & electrified-barbed-wire-wrapped-baseball-bats applied repeatedly to your genitals. Then Ninite steps up to the plate. The site is a *joy* to navigate, everything is properly labeled & identified, there's no wondering "WTF does this bit do?", the check boxes for the files I want are concise, and when I click that download link, It Just Works. The file is small, I don't have to Unblock it (UAC doesn't think it's malware? BAH HAhahahaha) and it does what it firkin says it'll do. "Install the latest Adobe? Ok, hold on... downloading... done. Applying... done. Anything else with that today, or can I remove myself from memory, Sir?" I've already uninstalled Java because of all the exploits it has. I've uninstalled Adobe Reader for the same reason.If HTML5 were more prevalent, Adobe Flash Player would get ripped out "With Extreme Prejudice", and Adobe would get a "STFU, GTFO, FOAD, & HAND" letterfrom me. As it is, I'm stuck using Adobe's Flash Player, and it's about as Blind Accessible as a rabid badger is friendly & cuddly. At least you can *SEE* the crap it pulls. The Blind/Visually Impaired have to rely on Adobe having the brains to properly design a UI that's Accessible such that a SRE stands a chance in hell of reading it to us. Want to take a wild arsed guess as to how well Adobe's done that? And one more post I liked. Bravo! "Reader, Flash and Air are - alongside Oracle's Java browser plugin - the screen door through which the raw unfiltered sewage of the internet oozes into the homes of netizens. These products are awful, the security is worse and the management of them over the years beggars belief." I have never seen this sentiment better expressed. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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