[access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:44:08 +0100

Pity those who designed it re not on the list, or maybe they are and they could give us some of the background and their reasoning for developing this software. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 2:30 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People



I think that, whilst there is a place for Guide and it seems to me to
fulfill a genuine need, the way "Georgie" is being marketed on the
face of it seems deceitful and a rip-off.  Guide, at least, is cheaper
than some screen readers and does less than them.  Whereas Georgie is
more expensive than any access software on Android as far as I know,
and is limiting.  Plus, whereas I believe people who want to make use
of computers but haven't the time/ability to learn a screen reader and
associated Windows business can still get quite a lot done with a
computer running Guide, I can't see why, if someone doesn't want the
difficulties of a touch screen, they would go for, or be led to, an
Android device in the first place.  They'd probably be better off with
whatever Nokia phones are still around with keypads; even one without
speech combined with some other means of reading telephone numbers.
Seems the developers of Georgie would have blind technophoebs
/techie-newbies believe they can have their cake and eat it, and that
simply isn't the case.  A comparatively expensive cake too.

Catherine

On 7/15/12, Iain Lackie <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That misses the point. The screenreader aims to make the phone or computer accessible as far as it is possible to do so. The choice of what is used is 

left to the user. What we might call for the sake of this argument the
"Guide" approach makes choices as to what the user might want to use. It is 

the same difference between an extracted talking newspaper where someone
else has made an editorial choice as to what you will get and the whole text
of the newspaper where the reader makes the choices of what he/she wants to 

read.
The problem with the "guide" approach is that though it offers what appears
to be a quick start in getting things done, the user is stuffed when he/she
wants to do anything outside the capabilities of the program. This is why so 

many people find themselves progressing from Guide to a screenreading
program such as NVDA or even a paid-for program.



Iain
-----Original Message-----
From: Eleanor Burke
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:06 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People
You use a screen reader for blind people. Do you not like Talks software for 

the blind either?
-----Original message-----
From: Alex Stone
Sent:  15/07/2012, 10:57  pm
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People


I really don't want a "special" mobile phone for blind people.

Alex
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lorimer
Sent: 14 July 2012 11:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Accessible Phone for Blind People



Hi Jeff,



Try this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18818279



Tom.



----- Original Message -----

From: jeff flint <mailto:jeffflint15@xxxxxxxxx>

To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:54 AM

Subject: [access-uk] New Accessible Phone for Blind People



My brother in Australia heard a report from England that a new mobile
phone,
with lots of bells an whistles, was launched last Thursday in London.

Does anybody know anything about it?

Jeff


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