Carol, sorry, can't advise about using Eloquence with NVDA as it's, loosely speaking, illegal to use it in that way. Now, if you have an old version that happens to work on your machine without being limited to Jaws or Window Eyes or whatever, well, then it would just work with NVDA and with everything else, but for a long time, these open versions haven't been used. The problem goes back to the owners, Nuance. NVDA did try to do a deal with them so that they could legitimately sell an NVDA version, but the last I heard, Nuance weren't going to develop Eloquence any more, but at the same time didn't want to let it go into the wild either. NVDA would need to sell several hundred licences to make any further approaches to Nuance worth their while, and, well, try asking a bunch of blind people if they want to part with 30 quid, and you know what the answer will be (grin). It's hard to summarise which key strokes are like Jaws and which are not. Not being that familiar with JAWS, I would need to go through the process in reverse. All I can suggest is you mug up on the important keystrokes in the Commands Quick Reference found on the NVDA Help menu. NVDA obviously didn't want to create simply a clone of JAWS, which could have landed them in court. Page navigation I think works pretty much like Jaws. I'm referring to things such as H for heading, L for list, i for list item and the rest of it. Normally, you don't need to remove an old version of NVDA when updating. It's only usually necessary if your settings have got corrupted and you get unpredictable results In that case you would want to get rid of possibly dodgy .INI files. Hope that helps a bit. Drop me a line off list by all means if I can be of use. Vince. ======================================== Message Received: Nov 28 2013, 03:13 PM From: "Carol Pearson" To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Subject: [access-uk] NVDA QUESTIONS Hi all, I am looking for advice on NVDA as one who uses it only in a limited fashion and doesn't really understand how the keys differ from Jaws. First, I was sent a synth driver so that I could run Eloquence with NVDA. I can't remember the filename. I probably have it somewhere but want to check before changing computers. If anyone knows what this file is called or can send me a copy, if I don't find it, I'd be very grateful. Second, I need to upgrade NVDA and want to know if I should remove the older one I have, which is a couple of versions back, before installing new. Do I need to upgrade to the version after I have and then again to the latest? Do I need to uninstall what I have before installing? Third, and finally, I keep getting stuck with NVDA because I don't understand their notation of keys and, though many are like Jaws, others are not. I get stuck particularly when it comes to reading parts of a screen I currently use this just for mail and to try to get me out of scrapes from time to time but don't feel competent enough on the web. Perhaps someone may be willing to help me with this. Carol P ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq