I will have to respectfully decline any invitation to speak specifically about NVDA in comparing it to the commercial offerings to avoid accusations of prejudice or vested interest since the company I work for sells some of the commercial offerings under advisement. However my point generally would be that it is an achievement in itself that there is such a thing as an open source solution for screen reading in Windows and that it has become possible for this to be the case. The argument as to quality of stability reminds me somewhat of the same argument held over 15 years ago regarding the quality of "Shareware" verses commercial applications with the former usually coming off worse in estimations. It probably took in the region of 10 years from the very beginnings of the shareware software movement to a point where one might think of them as having offerings that faired favourably. Today we have moved somewhat forward and now there is very good quality software available through shareware, open source and even some freeware within the mainstream. Outside of the mainstream things will move more slowly. The commercial offerings will always tend to focus on the dominant application offerings because that is the core business, however those such as NVDA do not necessarily have to or need to. Drawing these themes somewhat together is the fact that whilst Open Source speech is available in a variety of guises including NVDA they are usually harder (especially for the unseasoned) to get working the way a user wants which is both a technical and a knowledge gap presently. I believe that whilst this is true now one is looking at a moving target and ultimately it is a question of there being some kind of business model behind it to drive some of the development forward. Such has already developed in parts of the mainstream Open Source software industry where the software is provided or packaged more or less free (or at cost only) and then the sell is the services to support and maintain the software (as happens with some Linux distributions presently). Perhaps a similar model may develop in a more medium to long future regarding access technology software where people can build off solutions that are already there but also still make some kind of living for their labour and drive development at a pace closer to that of commercial software and that which end users might expect. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk Mail: Tristram: tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Technical: Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx General - info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: Support line: 0845 634 7979 Sight and Sound Technology Limited is a company registered in England and Wales, with company number 1408275. Sight and Sound Technology Welton House North Wing Summerhouse Road Moulton Park Northampton NN3 6WD VAT Number - GB 860 2121 66.