[access-uk] Re: N96 Accessability Help
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:02:42 -0000
Hi Hussein,
Yes, you are correct. The N96 is not fully supported. Mainly the help
system that gives us problems at the moment.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Hussein Patwa
Sent: Tuesday 3 November 2009 13:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: N96 Accessability Help
Hi,
Not Steve, but I got a friend to test it just a moment ago on an unbranded
N96 with Talks 4.1. The help system does not work there either, so I would
say it's not supported.
I'm sure Steve will keep us right though if that's not the case.
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Hussein.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:41 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] N96 Accessability Help
>
> Hi Steve
> I can never acce3ss the Help on my N96. Is it not supported?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:28 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
>
>
> > Hi Hussein,
> >
> > Yes, we have a test N97 here, and Talks really does not work well on
> it at
> > all. We alswo have the latest firmware on it.
> >
> > Also, that is the reason that some of the E phones are not on the
> Nuance
> > list. They won't be included on the list, until they are fully
> supported.
> > By fully, we mean that all the internal Nokia apps should work. This
> is
> > why
> > the N86 is not fully supported either, but it is perfectly usable, if
> you
> > don't want Email and help.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > Hussein Patwa
> > Sent: Tuesday 3 November 2009 12:52
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > From your mail I assume you have firsthand experience of actually
> using
> > Talks on the N97? In that case I of course bow down to your first
> hand
> > knowledge. One can only assume the guy in the post I linked to was
> using
> > a
> > modified version of the OS or some other way that rendered it
> accessible
> > to
> > him.
> >
> > Personally I don't see the point in buying a device that was
> primarily
> > intended for use through touch, when most of the experience is
> depleted
> > due
> > to the very nature of visual accessibility. Then again, that's only
> my
> > own
> > opinion and I of course don't mean to offend anyone that is
> successfully
> > using this phone by whatever method.
> >
> > Nevertheless, my comments about reduced support for some of the E-
> series
> > phones stand. I have used these first hand and can vouch for the
> lack of
> > accessibility in the e-mail, help system and part of the calendar
> first
> > hand. Just in case someone was thinking of purchasing these phones
> as an
> > alternative to the N97. It would be a shame for someone to buy a
> phone
> > for
> > primary use also an e-mail device, only to find they couldn't use the
> very
> > features they'd paid hundreds of pounds for.
> >
> > Best for now,
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Have a pleasant day,
> >
> > Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> >
> > Hussein.
> >
> > Hussein Patwa
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:05 AM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> >>
> >> Hi Hussain,
> >>
> >> This is incorrect. Talks does not work well at all with the N97
> >> currently.
> >> You install at your own risk. One reason is that Key1 and Key2 can
> be
> >> positioned in different places on the screen, and Talks givbes no
> >> indication
> >> of the position currently. Also, the menus do not speak in grid
> view.
> >>
> >> So to say Talks supports the N97 at the moment is complete nonsense.
> >> Most
> >> features will not work. As a Talks dealer, you have been warned!
> >>
> >> It will be supported, but do not do it yet, you'll get nothing but
> >> frustration.
> >>
> >> I don't know the position with MS.
> >>
> >> All the best
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of
> >> Hussein Patwa
> >> Sent: Monday 2 November 2009 22:43
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This forum post gives a brief VI user review of the N97. I'm sure
> >> you'll
> >> get some grins out of it as well:
> >> //www.freelists.org/post/talks-uk/Nokia-N97,7
> >>
> >> The N97 does work on Talks, however some parts may have limited
> >> accessibility. On that point, note that Nuance are not all that good
> at
> >> updating their list of supported phones. A friend and I have been
> >> playing
> >> around with newer ones for a time, and often the support is 100% if
> not
> >> very
> >> close to it, yet it is not listed on the site. I suppose one could
> say
> >> this
> >> is a security mechanism to prevent people complaining of false
> >> advertising.
> >>
> >> This post relates to MobileSpeak on the N97. Note again here the
> lack
> >> of
> >> total accessibility is highlighted. If the N97 uses the same
> Symbian
> >> OS
> >> version as the E75 (which my fuzzy mind can't recall at the moment
> and
> >> my
> >> contact who has one isn't answering his phone) I can tell you for
> >> definite
> >> that parts of the calendar, e-mail and the help system won't work at
> >> all.
> >>
> >> The best thing you could do is buy an N97 and return it within the
> 14
> >> day
> >> returns period. Install Talks and Mobilespeak on it in turns and
> try
> >> them
> >> out. In my experience most networks are fine about you returning a
> >> product
> >> due to a found accessibility issue. Alternatively, borrow a
> friend's
> >> for
> >> the day. However, I do find from experience that MobileSpeak seems
> to
> >> have
> >> more unresolved bugs in it than the Nuance equivalent.
> >>
> >> HTH.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________
> >> Have a pleasant day,
> >>
> >> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
> >>
> >> Hussein.
> >>
> >> Hussein Patwa
> >> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
> >> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP)
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> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of
> >> Edward Green
> >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:20 PM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Nokia N97 and Talks/Mobile Speak
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Has anyone tried running either Mobile Speak or Talks on the Nokia
> N97?
> >> I
> >> understand this phone is running Symbian 5th Edition/version 9.4.
> >>
> >> The phone isn't listed by either manufacturer as being supported,
> but I
> >> wondered whether either product allowed access to some part of the
> >> phone.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any information.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
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