[access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:06:43 -0000
Hi Barry,
Only problem I have with that, is warranty. I am not sure if Nokia in the
UK would honour a warranty in the UK of a phone bought abroad. But I may be
wrong. The other issue is firmware. If Nokia come out with a new firmware
in the UK for your N82, and yours is a US phone, if Nokia don't bring out
that firmware for the US, then you ain't gonna update it. So there are some
ikssues there.
All the best
Steve
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Dj Paddy
Sent: Sunday 3 February 2008 16:33
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
It'll probably be tied to your phones seriel number liek Talks and Mobile
Speak does.
How about anyone that's out there just buy the lot?
Current exchange rates show that, $2,300 for the lot, phone, talks, software
is about 500 quid cheaper than here.
Dj Paddy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> George - I think those us interested in buying from the US, just want the
> software, as it's about £300 cheaper. It appears however that each state
> has
> it's own dealer, and therefore is unlikely they will sell overseas.
>
> What I can't find out is how the software will be licence to prevent
> piracy.
>
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:00 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
>
>
> |I suppose you could try, but with something of that value, I
> | sure as heck would want to make sure that it was fully
> | insured. Of course by doing that, it would have to have a
> | full value commercial shipping invoice with it, and so sure
> | as eggs are eggs, it would get snagged by Customs.
> |
> | Even if it was marked as "Articles for the Bind", you would
> | then need to deal with Customs to explain why. And at the
> | very least, there's a 99% chance you would have to pay Duty
> | & VAT on the telephone itself.
> |
> | Additionally, you may find as I do, that in addition to the
> | shipping cost, you have to pay Airline Handling and Customs
> | Clearance, likely to be around £25 each for those two items
> | alone.
> |
> | There's an interesting article from the Guardian at:-
> | http://tinyurl.com/3e4d8y
> | which warns people about the hidden costs of importing good
> | purchased from abroad.
> |
> | George.
> |
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sunil
> | Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:43 PM
> | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> |
> | Are there any restrictions on any of us in the UK buying the
> | software from
> | an American dealer? Or would it be worth it once you take
> | into account
> | shipping etc?
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> | Ray's Home
> | Sent: 03 February 2008 00:54
> | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> |
> | Well, I've heard all 68 minutes or so of the presentation on
> | the KNFB
> | embedded cell phone reader, and the listening is interesting
> | for more
> | than the obvious reasons. Before I say more, some quick
> | jump to
> | points might be good for those who cannot waite to get to
> | the meat.
> |
> | 23 minutes in givbes you Ray Kurtzveil's intro and future
> | gazing - and
> | he's known as a futureologist. Things like image and object
> | recognition improvements, including, he claims, faces.
> |
> | thirty minutes in or so, main presentation of what the
> | present
> | software does, and demos of it working on text, to
> | tremendous rapture
> | by the audience.
> |
> | 50 minutes: Question time, including cost of software and
> | phone etc.
> | and where Americans can buy.
> |
> | Speaking mostly from emory interesting points are the reader
> | will work
> | in a phone without a screen reader, and one that's not
> | activated.
> | Very good Screen enlargement is also there too for those
> | with some
> | sight,. Good help and keyboard guidance built-in, and
> | presenter
> | believes the reader software should be usable with very
> | minimal
> | training for many if not most people.
> |
> | The phone itself (Nokia n82) measures 4" x 2" x1" thick, and
> | weighs in
> | at 4 oz.in Its said to be very tacktile and the keys more
> | identifiable than many. Sells for $500 or less in the US.
> | Has built
> | in GPS MP3 player, and high quality camera of course. I say
> | all this
> | to give some idea of what those fortunate enough to have the
> | dosh will
> | get in the phone itself.
> |
> | The software, to be much improved on, turns out to cost
> | $1595.00 in
> | the US. Now, here's where we come to that pricing issue
> | again. that
> | would equate to a straight UK conversionof less than
> | ?800.00. So, why
> | cannot we have it for less than ?100.00? Say ?950.00 for
> | reading
> | anywhere! What a sales point that could be for those who
> | can push the
> | poat out? AS opposed to rather more than that, seemingly.
> |
> | Not sure a UK audience or consumers are going to be quite so
> | raptured
> | and take the message to the country as they're encouaged to
> | do in the
> | US! The demo or presentation indeed had more the flavour of
> | a
> | revivalist meeting, with sounding horn, and loads of
> | shrieking and
> | applause. Maybe a sort of primary? Not without good
> | reason!
> |
> | I only wish potential UK buyers had as much to shout about.
> | AS it is
> | the software, as I say, is going for $1595.00, so God knows
> | what the
> | 37 dealers there actually pay for it. Or what our sole
> | distributer
> | pays for it, come to that. I'll bet is less than $1595.00.
> | Okay, so
> | business is about profit; yes, I've got that message. When
> | does
> | profit turn to greed and extortion? Sorry folks, but yes,
> | you can
> | have a marvel of a device here, which can only get better.
> | You'll pay
> | much more dearly for it than folks across the Atlantic.
> | Unlike them
> | too, you won't be accessing a 3 per cent loan to help buy
> | it. That in
> | itself would be a good idea, but not sure why anyone should
> | help
> | bolster an already ludicrus profit margin.
> |
> | Those remarks aside, I do urge anyone who's not heard the
> | launch of
> | the KNFB cell phone reader to go on over to:
> |
> | http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
> |
> | And download or simply listen to the file.
> |
> | Cheers,
> |
> | From Ray
> | I can be contacted off-list at:
> | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
> |
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | Steve Nutt
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> |
> |
> | Hi Ray,
> |
> | Well James Everson of Sight And Sound is on this list, so I
> | would be
> | very
> | interested in his comments on this. As a reseller of
> | adaptive tech, I
> | too
> | feel this is overpricing, even allowing for overheads.
> |
> | All the best
> |
> | Steve
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | Ray's Home
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> |
> | Paul, the 'over-inflated' UK price is more worthy of a post
> | from me!
> | (smile).
> |
> | Think the difference is three or four hundred quid! Presume
> | there's
> | no
> | training being offered if you buy the software alone, as
> | surely some
> | will
> | want to do. So, where exactly is the support and whatever
> | in that?
> | Sure
> | many would like to pay rather less than a thousand quid for
> | the
> | software, if
> | only they could!
> |
> | Wouldn't be so concerned if this was more obviously another
> | leaning on
> | Access to work provision, but we're talking enhancing of
> | dailly living
> | here.
> | This makes it look very like extortion to me.
> |
> | I'd dearly like to see a defence of this, but as we often
> | say here,
> | I'm not
> | holding my breath!
> |
> | Cheers,
> |
> | From Ray
> | I can be contacted off-list at:
> | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
> |
> |
> | -----Original Message-----
> | Paul Leake
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
> |
> |
> | an interesting presentation and an intention to continue to
> | develop
> | the
> | product for the future. Pity that the u k price seems over
> | inflated
> | though!
> |
> | Cheers
> |
> | Paul
> |
> | paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:51 PM
> | Subject: [access-uk] More on KNFB reader for phones
> |
> |
> | > Hi folks,
> | >
> | > Take a look, or should I say a listen, to this file. You
> | can
> | download it
> | > from:-
> | >
> | > http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
> | >
> | > All the best
> |
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