[access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:00:41 -0000
I suppose you could try, but with something of that value, I
sure as heck would want to make sure that it was fully
insured. Of course by doing that, it would have to have a
full value commercial shipping invoice with it, and so sure
as eggs are eggs, it would get snagged by Customs.
Even if it was marked as "Articles for the Bind", you would
then need to deal with Customs to explain why. And at the
very least, there's a 99% chance you would have to pay Duty
& VAT on the telephone itself.
Additionally, you may find as I do, that in addition to the
shipping cost, you have to pay Airline Handling and Customs
Clearance, likely to be around £25 each for those two items
alone.
There's an interesting article from the Guardian at:-
http://tinyurl.com/3e4d8y
which warns people about the hidden costs of importing good
purchased from abroad.
George.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sunil
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:43 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Are there any restrictions on any of us in the UK buying the
software from
an American dealer? Or would it be worth it once you take
into account
shipping etc?
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ray's Home
Sent: 03 February 2008 00:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Well, I've heard all 68 minutes or so of the presentation on
the KNFB
embedded cell phone reader, and the listening is interesting
for more
than the obvious reasons. Before I say more, some quick
jump to
points might be good for those who cannot waite to get to
the meat.
23 minutes in givbes you Ray Kurtzveil's intro and future
gazing - and
he's known as a futureologist. Things like image and object
recognition improvements, including, he claims, faces.
thirty minutes in or so, main presentation of what the
present
software does, and demos of it working on text, to
tremendous rapture
by the audience.
50 minutes: Question time, including cost of software and
phone etc.
and where Americans can buy.
Speaking mostly from emory interesting points are the reader
will work
in a phone without a screen reader, and one that's not
activated.
Very good Screen enlargement is also there too for those
with some
sight,. Good help and keyboard guidance built-in, and
presenter
believes the reader software should be usable with very
minimal
training for many if not most people.
The phone itself (Nokia n82) measures 4" x 2" x1" thick, and
weighs in
at 4 oz.in Its said to be very tacktile and the keys more
identifiable than many. Sells for $500 or less in the US.
Has built
in GPS MP3 player, and high quality camera of course. I say
all this
to give some idea of what those fortunate enough to have the
dosh will
get in the phone itself.
The software, to be much improved on, turns out to cost
$1595.00 in
the US. Now, here's where we come to that pricing issue
again. that
would equate to a straight UK conversionof less than
?800.00. So, why
cannot we have it for less than ?100.00? Say ?950.00 for
reading
anywhere! What a sales point that could be for those who
can push the
poat out? AS opposed to rather more than that, seemingly.
Not sure a UK audience or consumers are going to be quite so
raptured
and take the message to the country as they're encouaged to
do in the
US! The demo or presentation indeed had more the flavour of
a
revivalist meeting, with sounding horn, and loads of
shrieking and
applause. Maybe a sort of primary? Not without good
reason!
I only wish potential UK buyers had as much to shout about.
AS it is
the software, as I say, is going for $1595.00, so God knows
what the
37 dealers there actually pay for it. Or what our sole
distributer
pays for it, come to that. I'll bet is less than $1595.00.
Okay, so
business is about profit; yes, I've got that message. When
does
profit turn to greed and extortion? Sorry folks, but yes,
you can
have a marvel of a device here, which can only get better.
You'll pay
much more dearly for it than folks across the Atlantic.
Unlike them
too, you won't be accessing a 3 per cent loan to help buy
it. That in
itself would be a good idea, but not sure why anyone should
help
bolster an already ludicrus profit margin.
Those remarks aside, I do urge anyone who's not heard the
launch of
the KNFB cell phone reader to go on over to:
http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
And download or simply listen to the file.
Cheers,
From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
Steve Nutt
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Hi Ray,
Well James Everson of Sight And Sound is on this list, so I
would be
very
interested in his comments on this. As a reseller of
adaptive tech, I
too
feel this is overpricing, even allowing for overheads.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
Ray's Home
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
Paul, the 'over-inflated' UK price is more worthy of a post
from me!
(smile).
Think the difference is three or four hundred quid! Presume
there's
no
training being offered if you buy the software alone, as
surely some
will
want to do. So, where exactly is the support and whatever
in that?
Sure
many would like to pay rather less than a thousand quid for
the
software, if
only they could!
Wouldn't be so concerned if this was more obviously another
leaning on
Access to work provision, but we're talking enhancing of
dailly living
here.
This makes it look very like extortion to me.
I'd dearly like to see a defence of this, but as we often
say here,
I'm not
holding my breath!
Cheers,
From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
Paul Leake
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More on KNFB reader for phones
an interesting presentation and an intention to continue to
develop
the
product for the future. Pity that the u k price seems over
inflated
though!
Cheers
Paul
paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: [access-uk] More on KNFB reader for phones
> Hi folks,
>
> Take a look, or should I say a listen, to this file. You
can
download it
> from:-
>
> http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?redirect=2614
>
> All the best
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following
link:-
**
[mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on
the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following
link:-
**
[mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on
the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe]
** If this link doesn't work then send a message to:
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
** and in the Subject line type
** unsubscribe
** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the
** immediately-following link:-
** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]
** or send a message, to
** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
Other related posts:
