[access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
- From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:47:22 +0100
Hi Graham,
I'm awaiting a review unit and hoping to do something on the wireless
about it and other PDA solutions in the future and at less of the
breakneck speed that any Sight Village coverage would require. But in
short it seems that it's possible to enter data such as notes, contacts
info and calendar entries either as askii Braille text (note, not grade
2) or via voice recording. If the entries are made via Braille input,
they're read back to you letter by letter in synthesised speech rather
than as words. If they're entered via voice recording, then it's your
own dulcits which speak back to you.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Graham Page
Sent: 24 July 2006 23:15
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
so what is the Nano and, more importantly, is it any good?
I can find marketing blerb and a description at
http://www.techno-vision.co.uk/nano.htm
and it looks though it could be a replacement to the Voice-Mate. is
this a fair comment? is it more robust? do the batteries last longer?
Regards
Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
Hi Adrian, in the end we talked to Technovision about it for the show.
But my sources tell me that at least a couple of other UK distributors
have it. I have to say, none of them was falling over themselves to
tell me or In Touch about it either last week or when it emerged. In
the end, a Google of Nano Braille PDA brought up Caretec in Austria and
Technovision over here.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 July 2006 16:30
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
Ian - where did you find info on the nano? I tried to source one after
SV last year but couldn't find a uk supplier who would answer the phone
nor any detail or specs online other than a list of international
distributors.
Adrian Higginbotham
Accessibility and inclusion adviser
British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Internal extension #2287
Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ -----Original
Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ian Macrae
Sent: 24 July 2006 14:35
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
They certainly weren't taken as such, David. And everyone will have
their individual view on each individual show. As for this wee,, I'm
afraid it's not my call as Cheryl is back in harness. However, for the
future, I am in the process of trying to put together a thorough-going
look at PDA options for blindies to include recent developments such as
the nano and MSP with a mainstream PDA. As for being the resident
expert, I'm very far from it, but I think I am good at approaching
technology from the perspective of the average Joe or Jo and if we ever
want or need real expertise, then there are people from among this
list's membership who offer it very willingly.
Cheers now.
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of David Russell
Sent: 24 July 2006 14:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
Ian,
I fully accept your points, and personally would have preferred a
considered report on SV the following week. There is no particular need
to have it while the exhibition is taking place. Of course you have
many things to cover, and not enough time to cover all that should be
covered, and it is impossible to please everyone. My point really was
that the negative views expressed by people who were not there could
have been expressed at any time on any In Touch programme. Of course
you are working to a tight schedule, but I am still of the opinion that
SV deserved more coverage than it in fact got. But you might surprise
me and devote the whole of this week's show to technology, but
thereagain, you might not.
I know Ian that you are as interested in the technological side as any
of us, indeed you are the In Touch techy expert, so any criticisms from
me are not directed at you personally. we really do need more than
twenty minutes per week.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ian Macrae
Sent: 24 July 2006 11:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
David, it's simply not possible to comprehensively cover everything new
at SV. For one thing the event opened on the Tuesday. Our reporter was
there on the Monday when people were setting up because he would not
have been able to gather the material, edit it and send it down for the
recording on the Tuesday. This meant that many of the exhibitors simply
didn't have the kit to hand. Some of them were therefore talking off
the top on the basis of what they could remember about individual
products. Others appeared to know little or nothing and resorted to
reading marketing blurb off product websites. As you can imagine, this
didn't make either for particularly good radio or accurate journalism.
As far as possible, when I have anything to do with the inclusion of
technical items in the show, I work on the basis that reviews should be
based on as thorough an evaluation as possible. Clearly it's not
possible for a reporter to get hold of a piece of new equipment at SV
and give it a thorough going over for the wireless. Finally,
technology, like sport, is something which as many people tune out from
as in to.
Cheers now.
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of David Russell
Sent: 23 July 2006 08:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
I am with Carol on this one. Not sure how much time was spent on last
week's In touch about the Exhibition, although I did listen. there were
a few very brief comments, mainly about PDAs and the rest of the item
was talking to people who were not there about why they did not go?
They could have done that on another week and given more time to what
was exhibited and to talk to people who attended.
It does appear strange that In Touch always tries to seek out new
equipment, and when it all appears in one convenient place, they show
little interest.
If half as much time were taken up with techy equipment as is expended
on guide dogs, then there would be more3 of a balance.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 23 July 2006 06:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
Doris,
I think you may not quite understand what I'm saying here. I'm talking
about those who don't yet know enough about computers and the internet
to even be interested in podcatching. There are also plenty of other
items in the exhibition which are not specifically hi-tech and it's
these that they certainly ought to be talking about.
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:25 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
> if you go to
>
> http://accessibleworld.org/show.php?contentid=43
>
> you will find an archive on listening to and making podcasts that you
> can either listen to online or download to your computer to listen to
> at your convenience.
>
> there are several accessible podcatcher programs available and with
> most you can also just download the mp3 and listen to them with the
> media player of your choice.
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
> At 11:34 PM 7/22/2006 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>Damon,
>>
>>With respect, still only comparatively few of us use computers on the
>>Internet and are sufficiently up to speed to go and get podcasts.
>>It's surely very important that the biggest and best exhibition of the
>>year should be covered well and as fully as possible for those who
>>just don't, for one reason and another, have this access as yet. I
>>didn't hear "In Touch" but, if indeed it was only a five minute
>>coverage, I'd have been very disappointed.
>>
>>--
>>Carol
>>carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:03 PM
>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
>>
>>
>>>To be fair about the In Touch coverage, it went out on the first day
>>>of the exhibition. The reporter turned up the day before it all
>>>started and grabbed some of the more headline new items being
>>>displayed, proper in order to get something on air quickly. In Touch
>>>usually puts out reports the week after Sight Village, a
>>>retrospective report. Doing it this way round meant that people could
>>>listen to the show and may also then be able to pay a trip to Sight
>>>Village themseles. So this has an added benefit to all exhibitors
>>>whether their products and services were mentioned or not.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps ... no one is ever really happy with the coverage no
>>>matter how it's done or by who.
>>>
>>>It should also be noted that the coverage from the online blind
>>>community is getting bigger and better. When it comes to niche
>>>content, the internet is the best platform and is also interactive -
>>>a 20 minute weekly radio show can only act as a small window onto
what's going on.
>>>
>>>...Damon
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen"
>>><brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Cc: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 2:21 PM
>>>Subject: [access-uk] More Sight Village
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>For some reason, some of our posts to the Sight Village podcast are
>>>>not being picked up by the Juice podcatching client and at the
>>>>moment I have no idea why that is.
>>>>
>>>>We have some posts being uploaded which you may like to grab,
>>>>including the presentation from Clarence Whaley of GW Micro and our
>>>>discussion of the appalling coverage of Sight Village in last
>>>>Tuesday's In Touch programme!
>>>>
>>>>While I am getting the podcast difficulty figured out, you can go to
>>>>the Blog as the items definitely are downloadable from there. The
>>>>URL is http://tandtconsultancy.wordpress.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Hartgen
>>>>
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