[access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:37:42 +0100
OK guys, I've kept quiet long enough.
First of all, I started Sight Village some 12 years ago, so
I do have some insight into what it's all about.
Second, from almost day one, BBC's In Touch have telephoned
round exhibitors asking what they have that is new or
interesting. This does not stop any dealer contacting In
Touch directly.
Third, In Touch have taken a lot of flack for covering the
event "after the event".
This time they decided to do a piece on the Tuesday, leaving
the undecided an opportunity to come to Sight Village on the
Wednesday or Thursday.
The majority of exhibitors are usually contacted a week or
more BEFORE the event, and are asked if they could do an
interview of any new or interesting products.
In sheer practical terms, I personally would not expect an
In Touch reporter to go haring round the country beforehand
interviewing around 100 dealers. Not to mention the fact
that many representatives come from abroad and don't arrive
until the week of Sight Village.
The bottom line is that BBC's Sunil Peck ran around Sight
Village on the Monday like a headless chicken, trying to
gather enough material, such that it could be edited on
Tuesday, and ready for a Tuesday evening program. Many
exhibitors just didn't know how to keep appointments, so
missed out on even the possibility that their interview
would be broadcast, however brief.
The net result was probably better than any of us could have
done in the circumstances.
If any of you think you could have done better, then get
your C.V. out and send it to Peter White or Ian Macrae, and
we'll see just how well you do with a digital tape recorder
and an absolute deadline.
And if you want some outside of the BBC views, ask Brian
Hartgen what it's like. Even he will admit that he didn't
have to meet a program deadline time.
George Bell.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: 24 July 2006 19:32
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
David,
I think it's worth pointing out that of the people who were
interviewed one was actually at Sight Village, one was
definitely in favour and I was only really against in the
sense that I didn't think it was worth the not
inconsiderable effort and expenditure of holiday days and
money in getting there. While we do have exhibitions in
Scotland, we never get the big hitters from the likes of
Freedom Scientific or GW Micro we would if Sight Village
occasionally visited us. I'm sure the same could be said of
other regions of the UK.
Where I think the programme fell down was in Peter White
allowing his views of Sight Village and exhibitions of its
type to come to the fore more than I think was strictly
necessary for a presenter as opposed to a contributor. I
would also say that it wasn't absolutely clear that Sunil
had recorded his piece the day before. If all one had to go
on was the programme, one would have been left with the
impression that a visit to Sight Village was like a visit to
some kind of bedlam, especially as the last words about it
were 'chaos' and 'madness'.
Iain.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.russell8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
Ian,
I fully accept your points, and personally would have
preferred a considered
report on SV the following week. There is no particular
need to have it
while the exhibition is taking place. Of course you have
many things to
cover, and not enough time to cover all that should be
covered, and it is
impossible to please everyone. My point really was that the
negative views
expressed by people who were not there could have been
expressed at any time
on any In Touch programme. Of course you are working to a
tight schedule,
but I am still of the opinion that SV deserved more coverage
than it in fact
got. But you might surprise me and devote the whole of this
week's show to
technology, but thereagain, you might not.
I know Ian that you are as interested in the technological
side as any of
us, indeed you are the In Touch techy expert, so any
criticisms from me are
not directed at you personally. we really do need more than
twenty minutes
per week.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ian Macrae
Sent: 24 July 2006 11:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
David, it's simply not possible to comprehensively cover
everything new
at SV. For one thing the event opened on the Tuesday. Our
reporter was
there on the Monday when people were setting up because he
would not
have been able to gather the material, edit it and send it
down for the
recording on the Tuesday. This meant that many of the
exhibitors simply
didn't have the kit to hand. Some of them were therefore
talking off
the top on the basis of what they could remember about
individual
products. Others appeared to know little or nothing and
resorted to
reading marketing blurb off product websites. As you can
imagine, this
didn't make either for particularly good radio or accurate
journalism.
As far as possible, when I have anything to do with the
inclusion of
technical items in the show, I work on the basis that
reviews should be
based on as thorough an evaluation as possible. Clearly
it's not
possible for a reporter to get hold of a piece of new
equipment at SV
and give it a thorough going over for the wireless.
Finally,
technology, like sport, is something which as many people
tune out from
as in to.
Cheers now.
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of David Russell
Sent: 23 July 2006 08:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
I am with Carol on this one. Not sure how much time was
spent on last
week's In touch about the Exhibition, although I did listen.
there were
a few very brief comments, mainly about PDAs and the rest of
the item
was talking to people who were not there about why they did
not go?
They could have done that on another week and given more
time to what
was exhibited and to talk to people who attended.
It does appear strange that In Touch always tries to seek
out new
equipment, and when it all appears in one convenient place,
they show
little interest.
If half as much time were taken up with techy equipment as
is expended
on guide dogs, then there would be more3 of a balance.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 23 July 2006 06:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
Doris,
I think you may not quite understand what I'm saying here.
I'm talking
about those who don't yet know enough about computers and
the internet
to even be interested in podcatching. There are also plenty
of other
items in the exhibition which are not specifically hi-tech
and it's
these that they certainly ought to be talking about.
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chipmunks" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:25 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
> if you go to
>
> http://accessibleworld.org/show.php?contentid=43
>
> you will find an archive on listening to and making
podcasts that you
> can either listen to online or download to your computer
to listen to
> at your convenience.
>
> there are several accessible podcatcher programs available
and with
> most you can also just download the mp3 and listen to them
with the
> media player of your choice.
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
> At 11:34 PM 7/22/2006 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>Damon,
>>
>>With respect, still only comparatively few of us use
computers on the
>>Internet and are sufficiently up to speed to go and get
podcasts.
>>It's surely very important that the biggest and best
exhibition of the
>>year should be covered well and as fully as possible for
those who
>>just don't, for one reason and another, have this access
as yet. I
>>didn't hear "In Touch" but, if indeed it was only a five
minute
>>coverage, I'd have been very disappointed.
>>
>>--
>>Carol
>>carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon"
<damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:03 PM
>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: More Sight Village
>>
>>
>>>To be fair about the In Touch coverage, it went out on
the first day
>>>of the exhibition. The reporter turned up the day before
it all
>>>started and grabbed some of the more headline new items
being
>>>displayed, proper in order to get something on air
quickly. In Touch
>>>usually puts out reports the week after Sight Village, a
>>>retrospective report. Doing it this way round meant that
people could
>>>listen to the show and may also then be able to pay a
trip to Sight
>>>Village themseles. So this has an added benefit to all
exhibitors
>>>whether their products and services were mentioned or
not.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps ... no one is ever really happy with the
coverage no
>>>matter how it's done or by who.
>>>
>>>It should also be noted that the coverage from the online
blind
>>>community is getting bigger and better. When it comes to
niche
>>>content, the internet is the best platform and is also
interactive -
>>>a 20 minute weekly radio show can only act as a small
window onto
what's going on.
>>>
>>>...Damon
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen"
>>><brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Cc: <bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 2:21 PM
>>>Subject: [access-uk] More Sight Village
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>For some reason, some of our posts to the Sight Village
podcast are
>>>>not being picked up by the Juice podcatching client and
at the
>>>>moment I have no idea why that is.
>>>>
>>>>We have some posts being uploaded which you may like to
grab,
>>>>including the presentation from Clarence Whaley of GW
Micro and our
>>>>discussion of the appalling coverage of Sight Village in
last
>>>>Tuesday's In Touch programme!
>>>>
>>>>While I am getting the podcast difficulty figured out,
you can go to
>>>>the Blog as the items definitely are downloadable from
there. The
>>>>URL is http://tandtconsultancy.wordpress.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Hartgen
>>>>
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