[access-uk] Re: Microsoft anti-spy program.
- From: "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:15:06 +0100
Hi again Jim,
As you may know Microsoft Anti-spyware was taken from a company which MS
acquired. They simply re-labelled the Giant software, did a few minor
tweaks, and put it out on the beta market.
Yes, I agree with you that it would be easier to simply have an e-mail
address to write to, but I am not aware of one.
Yes, I am sure that MS do employ some VIPs. However, they may not be
employed as software testers and may well, with justification, feel somewhat
unhappy about being given a role of a software tester rather than what may
well be a more satisfying role. That would not be fair treatment. That same
argument could be used for almost any company producing IT which may be used
by VIPs.
A point abut newsgroups is that a lot of duplicated messages may well be
avoided and the folks at MS will only need to respond once on the newsgroup,
rather than multiple times to all of those with the same question. Old
questions are often re-asked and often the public provide these answers
quicker than waiting for a professional response from MS.
I guess this discussion is largely a matter of opinion , over both what the
individual wants to do and what they think of MS!
Regards, John
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jim.doc
Sent: 30 June 2005 19:54
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Microsoft anti-spy program.
Hi John,
Thanks for your reply, but do we really need to join yet another news group
to get our opinions/thoughts over to the product developers! I think this is
just an unnecessary way to get feedback about a product that should have
been someway to accessible in the first place. Why isn't there an e-mail
address instead? I think this would of been a more productive way of
obtaining the feedback they wanted. Just my thoughts, giving Microsoft's
policy on accessibility in the first place. I think and I might be wrong,
but don't Microsoft have visually impaired people working on their software
productions to test these beta programs before they are released to the
public?
Jim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Microsoft anti-spy program.
> Some thoughts on the use of beta software and what you can do about it.
>
> This is beta software and in test, so it will not be perfect for all
users.
> Finding problems is what testing is about.
>
> From the Microsoft web site where you probably downloaded the beta
> from
you
> will see there are instructions on how to get to the newsgroups for
> the Microsoft Anti-spyware program.
>
> When the application first came out I signed up for all of these. They
> are quite heavy traffic so it is difficult to keep up with all of them.
>
>
> On the first couple of releases I sent notes into the Announce
> newsgroup about issues that did not work with screen readers.
>
> I got some very good feedback from the Microsoft folks manning the
> Newsgroup. They confirmed that Microsoft are committed to making their
> applications accessible and that before it went into production it
> should all be fully accessible.
>
> One of my complaints was that a blind person could not initiate a scan.
The
> screen icon for doing this was just a bitmap image without any label
> or hook. They have addressed this bit, if prompted by my test findings
> or not does not matter, by putting a properly labelled icon on the
> screen and by adding a scan option to the context menu.
>
> So, my suggestion to any of you who are unhappy about this program is
> to join the Newsgroup and tell them, in as much detail as you can,
> what it is you find difficult or impossible.
>
> After all, that is what beta testing is about. You are not using a
finished
> product here.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards, John
>
> Contact on : (Home)
> john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> or : (work)
> john.farley@xxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
Of
> jim.doc
> Sent: 30 June 2005 12:59
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Microsoft anti-spy program.
>
> Hi Sayka,
>
> Well that's a start. I wonder what happened to Microsoft Accessibility
> policy!
>
> Regards.
> Jim.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sayka Hussain" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:22 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Microsoft anti-spy program.
>
>
> > Right, this is what you do:
> >
> > 1. Access the system tray with Insert f11. This brings up a list of
> > running applications.
> >
> > 2. Then scroll down until Jaws Says 'Microsoft Antispyware'.
> >
> > 3. Hit enter which brings you up another list. Scroll the 'run scan'
> > option and this starts the scan.
> >
> > I hope this helps
> >
> > Sayka Hussain
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Gerold Locke
> > Sent: 29 June 2005 20:55
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Microsoft anti-spy program.
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Using Hal6.5, I have no problems accessing the program. I have
> > changed my schedule from 02 A M to a more suitable time, i, e: 10.00
> > A M.
> > If you can manage to alter the time, there is a change and save
> > button to be tabbed down to and entered.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Gerry.
> >
> >
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