I agree with you Peter though I did have a few hours where there was a problem wits the BT server. Eleanor -original message- Subject: [access-uk] Re: Messages lagging was ] Re: Moderated status From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 04:03:2009 11:55 am I don't seem to be suffering this at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saqib" <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Messages lagging was ] Re: Moderated status > Hi George. Nearly all of yesterdays messages have come in this morning. > This includes messages from other freelists mailing lists. It's not just > the Access-UK list. I think Yahoogroups are having delays but their always > had a history of delayed messages. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 7:15 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Messages lagging was ] Re: Moderated status > > >> Hi George. >> >> I sent a message last night at 21:16 with the subject heading " >> Re: [access-uk] RNIB DAISY book selection". >> >> >> >> It didn't appear until 00:55 this morning. >> >> >> >> Darran >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:53 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Messages lagging was ] Re: Moderated status >> >> >> | Hi Alexander, >> | >> | I really don't see what you mean by message delays. >> | >> | Please point me to any messages which you believe have been delayed so >> | that I can examine the Headers. >> | >> | As regards this message now, according to its Headers, you sent it at: >> | >> | Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:04:23 -0000 >> | >> | And it was received by our server as follows: >> | >> | Received: from vulture.skynet.co.uk ([80.93.167.12]) by >> | TechnoServer1.techno-vision.co.uk with Microsoft >> | SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); >> | Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:05:39 +0000 >> | >> | I make that around one minute and fifteen seconds. >> | >> | I've left the message Headers showing below, so you can track it's >> | progress fro Server to Server. >> | >> | George. >> | >> | Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 >> | Received: from vulture.skynet.co.uk ([80.93.167.12]) by >> | TechnoServer1.techno-vision.co.uk with Microsoft >> | SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); >> | Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:05:39 +0000 >> | Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net >> | [206.53.239.180]) >> | by vulture.skynet.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id >> | n23E53WI025158 >> | for <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:05:15 GMT >> 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| X-archive-position: 18902 >> | X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 >> | Sender: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | Errors-to: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | X-original-sender: alexander.shannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | Precedence: normal >> | Reply-to: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | List-help: <mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=help> >> | List-unsubscribe: >> | <access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe> >> | List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 >> | List-Id: access-uk <access-uk.freelists.org> >> | X-List-ID: access-uk <access-uk.freelists.org> >> | List-subscribe: <access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=subscribe> >> | List-owner: <mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> | List-post: <mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> | List-archive: <//www.freelists.org/archives/access-uk> >> | X-list: access-uk >> | Return-Path: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 14:05:39.0796 (UTC) >> | FILETIME=[22207140:01C99C09] >> | >> | -----Original Message----- >> | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> | Behalf Of Alexander Shannon >> | Sent: 03 March 2009 14:04 >> | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | Subject: [access-uk] Messages lagging was ] Re: Moderated status >> | >> | Hi Chris, Saqib, and all, >> | >> | I've changed the subject line, as although I agree with >> | Chris, that there is no moderated status being applied to >> | this list, I've noticed, both on this list and also the >> | Talks UK list, that messages seem to take a long time >> | getting to the list, From discussions I've had privately >> | with Graham Longley who owns the Talks-Uk list, I'd guess >> | that the problem may have to do with the fact that Freelists >> | has its servers in Canada, and the Canadians may change >> | their clocks to Summer time around the same time as the >> | Americans, who I believe either changed their clocks this >> | weekend just gone, or are about to change them this coming >> | weekend. >> | >> | I wrote a private message to George regarding this towards >> | the end of last week, (at the same time as contacting Graham >> | Longley about the same issue with the Talks list), but >> | George hasn't replied to the message I sent him as yet, (I'm >> | sure the fact he hasn't replied is just down to him being >> | busy), but I'll get back to the list with George's reply to >> | me if he replies to me before he sees the threads about >> | delayed messages and replies directly to the list. >> | >> | >> | >> | Alexander Shannon >> | >> | >> | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> | ** and in the Subject line type >> | ** unsubscribe >> | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> | ** immediately-following link:- >> | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> | ** or send 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