Hi Graham, I would say the E60 and the N91 have just as good keypads as the Owasys. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 26 March 2007 21:21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: MS & TALKS steve there are a couple of other big problems with the owasis that are just as fundamental, unless the software has been updated. :you can't send a text of more than 160 characters long. There is also a problem with the volume sometimes muting when you make a call if it is turned up full. Also there is no way to back up your contacts to either another memory card or a computer for safe keeping. I do know one person who likes this phone. I think Steve is a little overcritical of the speech. It is probably reasonably clear to most people. The number pad is also easy to use, far easier than many of the nokias. Can't comment on the N91 as I've not seen it but the 5500 sport and the N73 are not the easiest numberpads for everyone. I have to say though that, despite these positive points, the owasis is probably garbage for most people as the features are limited and it works out expensive. I think that even the most basic users of a talking phone do deserve a little more. regards graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: MS & TALKS Hi Ian, Mobile Speak will actually go on more phones than Talks, because there are three versions. One for Symbian, same as Talks, one for Windows Smart Phone, and one for Windows 05 Pocket PC edition. Some Pocket PCs have phones built in, like the O2 Exec, or the Orange SPV phones. http://www.codefactory.es or http://www.nuance.com/talks will get you more info on this. As for the Owasys, the problem is no screen, as I see it. The operators know nothing about them, such as T-Mobile or Voda, and no sighted person can easily help you, because they are "specialist" phones. Aside from that, you can't download additional ring tones, you can't do anything with Bluetooth, and the worst part of all is that the speech is some kind of Spanglish rubbish. That's my take on it, and yes I admit I am a Talks reseller for those that don't know, but MS or Talks are both light years better than the Owasys. I think the problem of no screen though, is the biggest problem. I understand, though I can't verify this, that some Sim cards even crash the Owasys, so definitely one to avoid, I'd say. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 26 March 2007 15:10 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] MS & TALKS Does Mobile speak go on the same types of phones as Talks please? Or are there others that will take it? And could someone remind me what it was in terms of functionality limitations which made the Oasis so comparatively unpopular? http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. 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