I'm puzzled by the reference to "audio description" which isn't really to do with screen reader access. Seems the person isn't clued into the point you were raising and may not know what is meant by "screen reader". Audio description and access to it is another issue which they've probleably not resolved yet. I did have a reply to a query I raised last year about the lack of audio description for TV programmes and that was to the effect of not having access to the metadata transmitted with the TV signal. BSL signing was there alright though because it is part of the main signal which I think is sent as a separate picture, or something like that. The named people I've mentioned do know about the IPlayer's lack of accessability re. screen readers, but maybe higher ups don't know, and that's bad. Cheers, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: George Bell Subject: [access-uk] Re: MORE ON BBC IPLAYER What is so dreadful about them saying the following? "We have received similar reports from other users and I can confirm that our development team are working hard to resolve the issue." Sounds to me like they are at least trying, having had other complaints. George. From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Godfrey-McKay Subject: [access-uk] MORE ON BBC IPLAYER Hi, In case it's of interest, here's the dreadful reply I got from the beeb, followed by my reply - which, on rereading, should have been stronger: "Dear Richard Thank you for contacting BBC iPlayer support team. I understand you want audio description on BBC iPlayer for screen reader users. We have received similar reports from other users and I can confirm that our development team are working hard to resolve the issue. You may wish to check the BBC iPlayer messageboard for the latest updates regarding this issue. www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbiplayer For future reference you may wish to know that you can contact the BBC iPlayer support team via the following web form: https://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/templates/bbciplayer/emailForms/emailPage Once again thank you for contacting BBC iPlayer. If you have any further enquires please do not hesitate to contact our team. Regards Usha BBC iPlayer Dear Usha, Thank you for your reply to my complaint. I'm afraid that you haven't really resolved matters to my satisfaction. I mentioned that I felt that this may well constitute a breach of the provisions of the Disability Discrimination Act, as the service being provided is no longer accessible to screenreader users. I'd be grateful if you would please deal with that point, and let me know by when it is intended that the iPlayer will be accessible. Why were the needs of screenreader users not incorporated into the new player before it was released? Is there a formal complaints procedure which I can follow to have the matter investigated thoroughly? With many thanks, Richard Godfrey-McKay Richard Godfrey-McKay Tel: (01738) 445 880 Mobile: (07791) 452 593 Please read this special message My partner, Cindy, is losing weight and at the same time, raising money for RNIB. Please go to www.justgiving.com/slimmercindy to make a generous donation to RNIB and keep her healthy and motivated to lose even more weight.42Lb to date! Thanks for reading this message. Richard