No need to get into arguments here folks. The APH recorders are really mostly the four track affairs which are long in the tooth now. The Bookport is made by Springer Design , although made to APH's specification. Now, please don't tell me its another American organisation, because I think I'm right on that. The digital recorders are various makes, incuding Olypus of course and some others. Most useful page for looking around starts at: http://www.hagger.co.uk/products/voice_recorder/?textonly= Dare I add, just to stir muddy the waters a bit further, there's always the good old RnIB shop. No idea what they sell these days. Then again, if you can get help with looking at the catalogue there's Argos with the no quibles 14 day return policy. Well, apart from the net itself, and all my suggestions are available on the net, you've quite a few suppliers to go at there. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Collins To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx oking for a basic digital recorder No it isn't! and I couldn't see APH products on the Hagger site! Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Page this is a bit like saying what do sony have to do with dixons or PC World. Hagger just sell their products. Graham Page Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Collins To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Looking for a basic digital recorder So what are they to do with Hagger? Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Beasley To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Looking for a basic digital recorder American printing house for the blind. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Collins To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Looking for a basic digital recorder Ray, what is APH? couldn't see these initials on the website! Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray's Home To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Looking for a basic digital recorder Well Andy, I'd say with Hagger its sort of six of one and half-a-dozen of the other. Some of the stuff they do, for example from APH, is made with the blind in mind, and I guess that would have to include the Bookport which in many ways is similar to the Book Currier but that's been covered here before. I think though that the Bookport does have a memo taking facility if I'm not getting confused. (Its been that sort of day.) On the other hand Hagger do mainstream stuff like the Olypus and Sanyo recorders which they do not claim to be totally friendly or usable by VI people, more the best that's available in their opinion in stuff that's not made with us in mind. I guess that, in short Hagger is the specialist in sound recording gear for the visually impaired, over the last 20 years and more. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Collins To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi Ray - Thanks for the Hagger suggestion, is all their stuff blind friendly then? or only some of it? I was looking at the Sanyo digital recorder they have. Andy