[access-uk] Re: Links on list?
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:16:40 -0000
OK so I'm supposed to be portrayed as that bad and not answer? hmmm, sorry,
not one of the doormats on here that sit and wait for everything done for
them so I'll go and try to help myself elsewhere!
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
jim o'brien
Sent: 09 December 2008 11:09
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
Dave, you were complaining about unnecessary stuff on this list. don't you
think its time you let this one go?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
> OK so spelling something out so a screen reader user can understand it is
> so
> bad! Sorry I breathed!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Andy Logue
> Sent: 01 January 2008 15:50
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
>
> Dave.
>
> Your message actually made me feel quite sick ! It is not the first such
> message that I have read from you this week and indeed, from other new
> members who are so full of themselves that they actually look down on
> people
>
> of lesser ability, people like me. The arrogance is really unattractive
> and
>
> I for one openly and in public, would like to distance myself from people
> like you and sadly, from this list, which I have been a member for almost
> fifteen years. Below is a message I wrote to this list, only a day or so
> ago but did not post as I did not wish to start a big debate. But I've
> decided to post it below and later this evening quit this list and walk
> away. i think my message explains quite clearly, despite the poor
> spelling,
>
> just how upset I am and how depressed I'm becoming witnessing what is
> happening to the good old Access.UK.
>
> To all my old friends within Accesas.UK, I wish you all the very best for
> the festive season and the new year which follows and apologise for any
> upset I may have caused, or any upset my following message may cause.
>
>
>
> Get a life hen!
>
> This is a perfectly legitimate topic for this list.
>
> What is going on here? Why do so many new members feel that they have a
> right to moderate this list in this way. Bad spelling, punctuation and
> even, as in my recent case, off-subject topics, are a fact of life for
> lists
> such as this and will always be here.
>
> If there is moderation to be done, then we are lucky to have a perfectly
> suitable Moderator to look after things. Please send all your horrible
> criticisms to him rather than to the list, so that people like me, don't
> get
> so publically hurt or humiliated.
>
> I've been on similar lists for almost 20 years and these same old issues
> are
> raised and the poor people who have made these absolutely terrible
> mistakes
> end up feeling inhibited and afraid to contribute further. This is a
> great
> shame and I'm sure flies in the face of most mailing list philosophies.
>
> So what! I make spelling mistakes! What is that to you? Perhaps I had a
> terrible education because of my poor sight. Perhaps I suffer from
> Dyslexia. Perhaps it was a spelling error , as in my case, because my
> hands
> are crippled with arthritis, or perhaps I'm writing this message using
> only
> my eyelids. What the heck is any of this got to do with you and how dare
> you complain to the list, regarding errors which, as human beings, we all
> make.
>
> We are not machines! The computer is at our fingertips not attached to
> our
> shoulders. We are human beings who share a common interest and as such,
> it's about time we started reaching out and helping each other rather than
> pointing out publically, our faults. Are there not enough able people out
> there doing this to us already? Is there not enough discrimination and
> bullying around us? Why do so many members tend to attack the less able
> like me?
> I'm honestly thinking of walking away folks. This list is sadly,
> reflecting
> the horrible attitude that I see every day in society. It should be a
> place of peace, support and a place where people are valued and motivated.
> I'm so angry with all these recent criticisms that it has saddened my
> heart.
>
> I'll never stop reaching out, even to those who hurt me. We have so much
> to
> offer each other and support we should and value judgments are for those
> out
> there.
>
> Sorry guys. Just feeling a bit sad.
>
> Very best wishes, as always.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:03 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
>
>
>>
>> no, not send me two messages, send "me too" messages, that's T O O, not T
>> W
>> O!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 08 December 2008 19:37
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
>>
>> The sending of two messages can sometimes be a fault of the system I
>> think
>> rather than the individual concerned. Sometimes problems can occur with
>> Free Lists.
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:13 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
>>
>>
>>> Yes I agree with you but some of these people are so challenged they
>>> can't
>>> even understand they shouldn't send "me too" messages to the list, which
>>> is
>>> in the guidelines! Maybe the guidelines should be auto sent every month
>>> to
>>> remind these people who apparently can't think or remember anything!
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> James Scholes
>>> Sent: 08 December 2008 19:03
>>> To: Scott C
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I do not object to links on list, I object to people not realising that
>>> they
>>> could save themselves quite often a lot of time just finding something
>>> their
>>> self instead of waiting for another list member to reply. I only take
>>> this
>>> stance regarding links, I obveously understand what this, and other
>>> lists
>>> exist for. Just making a comment is all. I wasn't trying to start an
>>> argument, but as usual I was shot down for giving my simple opinion. And
>>> Scot, I'll remove my signature (Yes, my signature which you don't even
>>> need
>>> to read if you don't want), just to make you happy. My signature gives
>>> info
>>> about how people can contact me, and is always below original messages.
>>> Its
>>> not like I say "Hey, read my signature first, then my message", or
>>> anything
>>> as stupid as that.
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 08, 2008 at 06:40 PM (GMT), Scott C wrote:
>>> He also objects to links in emails and then puts this in his every one.
>>>
>>> gees you couldn't make this up could you?
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Saqib - Email Address: saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent On: 08/12/2008 18:22
>>> Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address:
>>> access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Links on list?
>>>
>>> Hi James. Not everyone runs their list in the same way as you. If the
>>> mods
>>> objected to my query then I'm sure they would let me know about it. This
>>> list is designed in for list members to help each other out. The traffic
>>> is
>>> not huge on this list so I don't know why it's a concern to you. I don't
>>> mind helping people out when I can and it doesn't hurt to help someone.
>>> It
>>> makes the list helpful all round if people like you could adapt the same
>>> attitude. If you are having a problem with someone wanting to help or
>>> providing a link why don't you just leave the list because the list
>>> members
>>> are not going to change their helpful attitude for your sake.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "James Scholes" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:46 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Links on list?
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Just curious, on a list I owned a while back, I imposed a rule that
>>>> know
>>>> links were to be posted on-list unless a piece of software, or
>>>> particular
>>>> website was hard to find. Just wondering, seen as this list often has a
>>>> problem with traffic management, if it would be a good idea to enforce
>>>> a
>>>> similar rule? An example of messages that shouldn't be allowed are like
>>>> the one that someone posted today, asking for the link to cCleaner. I
>>>> find
>>>
>>>> it hard to believe that that person could not have just opened Google
>>>> and
>>>> typed 'cCleaner' in the search field. Just my thoughts.
>>>> --Check out my radio and TeamTalk server! http://www.jls-radio.com
>>>> --
>>>> James Scholes
>>>
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>>>> Message sent at 04:44:19 PM GMT on Monday, December 08, 2008
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