Hi Chris, Course you can. Laptops Direct and PC Specialist are just two that sell them. Get your googling fingers out before you say you can't do it <Smile>. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Hallsworth Sent: Wednesday 10 September 2008 21:25 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited I very much doubt it. Some companies, like Dell and Acer, are offering XP as downgradable disks however, but I doubt you can buy machines with XP preinstalled now. -- Chris Hallsworth E-mail: christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 FTP: ftp://blindsoftware:ilovecracks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Klango: chrishallsworth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited > Hi > > Can you still get xp pc's cheaply? > > > Regards > > Adrien > > You can get me off list at: > adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > or > adriencollins06@xxxxxxx > or > adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx > > I support cobweb, why don't you? > Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and > disabled children and their families. > To find out more or to make a donation go to: > www.cobwebfoundation.org > > Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia > program for > the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the > software from: > http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm > You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank > e-mail to: > speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Ireland > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:56 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited > > Hi Steve, > > I can sort of agree, but the Screen Reader hasn't been in > development for > all that long, and I would think better things are to come > in the next > version of the Mac Operating System. Also, the Mac is very > stable, not > something we can say about Windows! > > I stil use XP Pro on my Windows Box, and I am happy enough > with it. > > All the best > > -- > Andrew > > On 09 September 2008 19:48: Steve Nutt wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, >> >> The Mac ain't much good either. Nice for basic stuff like > word >> processing, not so nice on the web, and the screen reader > isn't so >> configurable. XP Rules! >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Andrew Ireland >> Sent: Tuesday 9 September 2008 19:46 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >> >> I agree about Vista, it isn't my idea of a good operating > system. >> That's why I purchased a Mac! <Smile>. >> >> All the best >> >> >>> Hi George, >>> >>> If you change to the classic start menu though, you lose > one of the >>> few lovely advantages of Vista. You can go to the run > menu, and just >>> type anything and it will find the nearest program. So > you could >>> type "word" and you will be right on Word. If you change > that to >>> classic, you lose it. One of the few things I like about > Vista. >>> Other than that, I think Vista is Microsoft's idea of a > practical >>> joke. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday 9 September 2008 > 15:40 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >>> >>> Hi Adrien, >>> >>> There is a learning curve with Vista, but it won't > usually >>> give you the screaming ab-dabs. If nothing else, you can > at >>> least change to the Classic Start menu. >>> >>> Office 2007 is the nasty one. For example in Word, while > a >>> lot of keyboard shortcuts have been retained, the whole >>> structure has changed and things have been moved all over >>> the place. >>> >>> George. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien > Collins >>> Sent: 09 September 2008 15:15 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >>> >>> Hi George >>> >>> It sounds like one of the equium range. Thanks for > letting >>> me know. >>> >>> Is vista easy to use and is there a tutorial on it? >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Adrien >>> >>> You can get me off list at: >>> adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> or >>> adriencollins06@xxxxxxx >>> or >>> adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> I support cobweb, why don't you? >>> Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and >>> disabled children and their families. >>> To find out more or to make a donation go to: >>> www.cobwebfoundation.org >>> >>> Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible > multimedia >>> program for >>> the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the >>> software from: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >>> You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank >>> e-mail to: >>> speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:03 PM >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >>> >>> I was in a hurry, so didn't note the model number, but I > had >>> a brief glimpse of a Toshiba in PC World, Northampton at > the >>> weekend, where the keyboard included a number pad. As I >>> recall price was around £500 - £600. >>> >>> George. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien > Collins >>> Sent: 09 September 2008 14:51 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >>> >>> Hi Steve >>> >>> No problem, I'll take a look at that site, obviously I > have >>> to shop around. I have only used toshiba laptops, most of >>> them start at 2 gb ram which is pretty good. I don't know >>> the other makes, toshiba prices are reasonable too. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Adrien >>> >>> You can get me off list at: >>> adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> or >>> adriencollins06@xxxxxxx >>> or >>> adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> I support cobweb, why don't you? >>> Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and >>> disabled children and their families. >>> To find out more or to make a donation go to: >>> www.cobwebfoundation.org >>> >>> Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible > multimedia >>> program for >>> the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the >>> software from: >>> http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >>> You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank >>> e-mail to: >>> speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:46 AM >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >>> >>> Hi Adrien, >>> >>> I can't answer your Toshiba questions, I never buy them, > I >>> don't like them. >>> They have non-standard drivers. That's just my opinion. >>> >>> A good source for laptop stuff though is >>> http://www.laptopshop.co.uk. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>> Adrien Collins >>> Sent: Monday 8 September 2008 22:17 >>> To: 'access uk' >>> Subject: [access-uk] Laptops revisited >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I know there have been a whole load of messages recently >>> about laptops and I'm sorry to ask you guys to go over it >>> again but my questions are more specific. >>> >>> I am interested in the toshiba equium 210, does any body > use >>> this laptop? What is it like? >>> I am also seriously looking at the toshiba satellite > 300d, >>> this has 2 gb ram and if I order it I will upgrade to 3 > gb >>> of ram, is 2 gb sufficient to run vista and hal and all > my >>> other programs? Would I be better with the 3 gb? >>> >>> Lastly, being in France, not many companies over here > will >>> supply me with a laptop with english keyboard or windows. >>> Therefore I have to purchase from the UK. 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