Hi Can you still get xp pc's cheaply? Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx I support cobweb, why don't you? Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and disabled children and their families. To find out more or to make a donation go to: www.cobwebfoundation.org Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Ireland Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:56 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Steve, I can sort of agree, but the Screen Reader hasn't been in development for all that long, and I would think better things are to come in the next version of the Mac Operating System. Also, the Mac is very stable, not something we can say about Windows! I stil use XP Pro on my Windows Box, and I am happy enough with it. All the best -- Andrew On 09 September 2008 19:48: Steve Nutt wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > The Mac ain't much good either. Nice for basic stuff like word > processing, not so nice on the web, and the screen reader isn't so > configurable. XP Rules! > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Andrew Ireland > Sent: Tuesday 9 September 2008 19:46 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited > > I agree about Vista, it isn't my idea of a good operating system. > That's why I purchased a Mac! <Smile>. > > All the best > > >> Hi George, >> >> If you change to the classic start menu though, you lose one of the >> few lovely advantages of Vista. You can go to the run menu, and just >> type anything and it will find the nearest program. So you could >> type "word" and you will be right on Word. If you change that to >> classic, you lose it. One of the few things I like about Vista. >> Other than that, I think Vista is Microsoft's idea of a practical >> joke. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday 9 September 2008 15:40 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >> >> Hi Adrien, >> >> There is a learning curve with Vista, but it won't usually >> give you the screaming ab-dabs. If nothing else, you can at >> least change to the Classic Start menu. >> >> Office 2007 is the nasty one. For example in Word, while a >> lot of keyboard shortcuts have been retained, the whole >> structure has changed and things have been moved all over >> the place. >> >> George. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins >> Sent: 09 September 2008 15:15 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >> >> Hi George >> >> It sounds like one of the equium range. Thanks for letting >> me know. >> >> Is vista easy to use and is there a tutorial on it? >> >> >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> You can get me off list at: >> adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> or >> adriencollins06@xxxxxxx >> or >> adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> I support cobweb, why don't you? >> Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and >> disabled children and their families. >> To find out more or to make a donation go to: >> www.cobwebfoundation.org >> >> Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia >> program for >> the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the >> software from: >> http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >> You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank >> e-mail to: >> speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:03 PM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >> >> I was in a hurry, so didn't note the model number, but I had >> a brief glimpse of a Toshiba in PC World, Northampton at the >> weekend, where the keyboard included a number pad. As I >> recall price was around £500 - £600. >> >> George. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins >> Sent: 09 September 2008 14:51 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >> >> Hi Steve >> >> No problem, I'll take a look at that site, obviously I have >> to shop around. I have only used toshiba laptops, most of >> them start at 2 gb ram which is pretty good. I don't know >> the other makes, toshiba prices are reasonable too. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> You can get me off list at: >> adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> or >> adriencollins06@xxxxxxx >> or >> adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> I support cobweb, why don't you? >> Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and >> disabled children and their families. >> To find out more or to make a donation go to: >> www.cobwebfoundation.org >> >> Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia >> program for >> the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the >> software from: >> http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >> You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank >> e-mail to: >> speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:46 AM >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited >> >> Hi Adrien, >> >> I can't answer your Toshiba questions, I never buy them, I >> don't like them. >> They have non-standard drivers. That's just my opinion. >> >> A good source for laptop stuff though is >> http://www.laptopshop.co.uk. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> Adrien Collins >> Sent: Monday 8 September 2008 22:17 >> To: 'access uk' >> Subject: [access-uk] Laptops revisited >> >> Hi >> >> I know there have been a whole load of messages recently >> about laptops and I'm sorry to ask you guys to go over it >> again but my questions are more specific. >> >> I am interested in the toshiba equium 210, does any body use >> this laptop? What is it like? >> I am also seriously looking at the toshiba satellite 300d, >> this has 2 gb ram and if I order it I will upgrade to 3 gb >> of ram, is 2 gb sufficient to run vista and hal and all my >> other programs? Would I be better with the 3 gb? >> >> Lastly, being in France, not many companies over here will >> supply me with a laptop with english keyboard or windows. >> Therefore I have to purchase from the UK. I know of >> play.com, laptops direct and pcworld, would you guys be able >> to recommend some other companies to me please. >> >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> You can get me off list at: >> adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> or >> adriencollins06@xxxxxxx >> or >> adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> I support cobweb, why don't you? >> Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and >> disabled children and their families. >> To find out more or to make a donation go to: >> www.cobwebfoundation.org >> >> Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia >> program for >> the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the >> software from: >> http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm >> You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank >> e-mail to: >> speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following >> link:- >> ** >> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then 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