Hi George, If you change to the classic start menu though, you lose one of the few lovely advantages of Vista. You can go to the run menu, and just type anything and it will find the nearest program. So you could type "word" and you will be right on Word. If you change that to classic, you lose it. One of the few things I like about Vista. Other than that, I think Vista is Microsoft's idea of a practical joke. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday 9 September 2008 15:40 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Adrien, There is a learning curve with Vista, but it won't usually give you the screaming ab-dabs. If nothing else, you can at least change to the Classic Start menu. Office 2007 is the nasty one. For example in Word, while a lot of keyboard shortcuts have been retained, the whole structure has changed and things have been moved all over the place. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: 09 September 2008 15:15 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi George It sounds like one of the equium range. Thanks for letting me know. Is vista easy to use and is there a tutorial on it? Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx I support cobweb, why don't you? Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and disabled children and their families. To find out more or to make a donation go to: www.cobwebfoundation.org Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:03 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited I was in a hurry, so didn't note the model number, but I had a brief glimpse of a Toshiba in PC World, Northampton at the weekend, where the keyboard included a number pad. As I recall price was around £500 - £600. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: 09 September 2008 14:51 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Steve No problem, I'll take a look at that site, obviously I have to shop around. I have only used toshiba laptops, most of them start at 2 gb ram which is pretty good. I don't know the other makes, toshiba prices are reasonable too. Regards Adrien You can get me off list at: adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx I support cobweb, why don't you? Cobweb is a charity which provides support for sick and disabled children and their families. To find out more or to make a donation go to: www.cobwebfoundation.org Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:46 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Laptops revisited Hi Adrien, I can't answer your Toshiba questions, I never buy them, I don't like them. They have non-standard drivers. That's just my opinion. A good source for laptop stuff though is http://www.laptopshop.co.uk. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Monday 8 September 2008 22:17 To: 'access uk' Subject: [access-uk] Laptops revisited Hi I know there have been a whole load of messages recently about laptops and I'm sorry to ask you guys to go over it again but my questions are more specific. I am interested in the toshiba equium 210, does any body use this laptop? What is it like? I am also seriously looking at the toshiba satellite 300d, this has 2 gb ram and if I order it I will upgrade to 3 gb of ram, is 2 gb sufficient to run vista and hal and all my other programs? Would I be better with the 3 gb? Lastly, being in France, not many companies over here will supply me with a laptop with english keyboard or windows. Therefore I have to purchase from the UK. I know of play.com, laptops direct and pcworld, would you guys be able to recommend some other companies to me please. 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