hi there if you have fibre optic broadband you do not need a filter in the master socket. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thursday, 6 November 2014 11.34 am Subject: [access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones > > > Hello Pele. > > A telephone wire is made up of 4 cores, that's to say there are 4 cables > within the telephone wire. As far as i understand it, there used to be > something called the ring wire in BT telephone sockets. this wire would > send a ring signal down 1 of the 4 wires in your telephone cable, > causing the phones to ring. the other wires would be used to carry the > voice signal. with modern telephone systems, BT have done away with the > ring wire system, meaning that only 2 wires are used for telephones and > sending the ring signal. the others i believe are used for broadband. > this in short means that older sockets will not be compatible with newer > telephone systems. Telephones can also conflict if you have more than a > few phones attached to your master socket. you'll find that only 1 or 2 > will ring, again probably because the lack of the ring wire. i would > recommend buying a panasonic set of cordless phones and plugging them in > to your master socket so you have 1 base and the others are on charging > pods around your house. a reputable telephone engineer should also be > able to rewire your sockets to fix the problem so they use the modern > telephone system, though your master socket may need updating for this > to work properly as modern sockets include filters for broadband etc to > separate the broadband signal from the phone signal. > > all the best, > > Mo. > > On 06/11/2014 11.11, Pele West wrote: > > Hi Everyone > > > > I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a strange problem we are having > > with our new phones that plug in. I hope this is not considered > > off-topic for this list. > > > > Peter and I recently bought two new BT Decor 2200 telephones. These > > phones plug into sockets on the wall. Our house was cabled with lots of > > extension sockets before cordless phones became popular. All the sockets > > have broadband filters plugged in as well. > > > > These phones work fine except that they only give the second part of the > > ring tone and, if you want to use the monitor, you cannot just press the > > button and get the dialling tone, you have to pick up the receiver, get > > the tone, put it down again and then press the button. > > > > I have tried one of the phones in all the sockets in the house, except > > the master socket and it does not work correctly. But we have an old > > phone which we have had for about 25 years which works perfectly. > > > > Does anyone know if the wiring is different on modern phones? Or does > > anyone have any suggestions as to how I can put things right (apart from > > taking the phones back). > > > > Pele West > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq