[access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones

  • From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:08:16 +0000

hi there if you have fibre optic broadband you do not need a filter in the 
master socket. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@xxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, 6 November 2014 11.34 am
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones

>
>
> Hello Pele.
> 
> A telephone wire is made up of 4 cores, that's to say there are 4 cables 
> within the telephone wire. As far as i understand it, there used to be 
> something called the ring wire in BT telephone sockets. this wire would 
> send a ring signal down 1 of the 4 wires in your telephone cable, 
> causing the phones to ring. the other wires would be used to carry the 
> voice signal. with modern telephone systems, BT have done away with the 
> ring wire system, meaning that only 2 wires are used for telephones and 
> sending the ring signal. the others i believe are used for broadband. 
> this in short means that older sockets will not be compatible with newer 
> telephone systems. Telephones can also conflict if you have more than a 
> few phones attached to your master socket. you'll find that only 1 or 2 
> will ring, again probably because the lack of the ring wire. i would 
> recommend buying a panasonic set of cordless phones and plugging them in 
> to your master socket so you have 1 base and the others are on charging 
> pods around your house. a reputable telephone engineer should also be 
> able to rewire  your sockets to fix the problem so they use the modern 
> telephone system, though your master socket may need updating for this 
> to work properly as modern sockets include filters for broadband etc to 
> separate the broadband signal from the phone signal.
> 
> all the best,
> 
> Mo.
> 
> On 06/11/2014 11.11, Pele West wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a strange problem we are having
> > with our new phones that plug in. I hope this is not considered
> > off-topic for this list.
> >
> > Peter and I recently bought two new BT Decor 2200 telephones. These
> > phones plug into sockets on the wall. Our house was cabled with lots of
> > extension sockets before cordless phones became popular. All the sockets
> > have broadband filters plugged in as well.
> >
> > These phones work fine except that they only give the second part of the
> > ring tone and, if you want to use the monitor, you cannot just press the
> > button and get the dialling tone, you have to pick up the receiver, get
> > the tone, put it down again and then press the button.
> >
> > I have tried one of the phones in all the sockets in the house, except
> > the master socket and it does not work correctly. But we have an old
> > phone which we have had for about 25 years which works perfectly.
> >
> > Does anyone know if the wiring is different on modern phones? Or does
> > anyone have any suggestions as to how I can put things right (apart from
> > taking the phones back).
> >
> > Pele West
> >
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