[access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
- From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:38:40 +0100
Hi
I would not like to say whether you are going about it in the wrong way. =
But don't forget, for the main part, it's down to your location in =
respect of your exchange. If you used a non BT line provider, you will =
still be using the same piece of copper wire from the exchange to your =
house.
If you suspect that you are not getting a fast service, could you ask =
neighbours about what they are getting? Of course, the only way you can =
test it is to sign up with different Internet Service Provider's and =
observe their performance but as it is likely that it would involve a =
year's contract it could take a long time to find the right one. I also =
wonder if you considered the other side of the equation? i.e. A data =
transfer involves two sides, a downloader and a uploader. When you get =
poor download transfer speeds, could it be that the uploader is holding =
the speed back? Is it at a peak time for either side. As you think =
about it, whether it is a LLU or not makes little difference.
=20
HTH
Gena
Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of Amro Bilal
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:37 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
Quite right, Gina. I wish I lived in a cable area; I would've used =
Virgin's=20
cable services. I'm with Virgin now and I'm promised a speed up to 8Mb. =
My=20
line, according to BT, is a good line and can support this speed of data =
transfer. However, with a contention rate exceeds 50-1 in peak times =
what do=20
I get? I sometimes don't even reach the 512Kb speed - 35/40Kbps; =
pathetic. I=20
understand that most likely no one would get the 8Mb downloading speed, =
but=20
in a good day my internet speed goes up to, just above, 1.5MB. I started =
losing faith in the ADSL technology in whole. I'm prepared to pay that=20
little extra money and get a good service and decent after sales =
support.=20
But it seems that with internet home services that one pay more for a =
little=20
or no more gain. That's why I'm looking to understand what LLU ISP would =
mean to me. I'm even considering looking for the more expensive business =
internet services. Am I being just frustrated and impatient and dealing =
with=20
this the wrong way?
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
> Hi
>
> Just to throw more confusion into the pot. I wouldn't have thought it =
=3D
> is such a big issue. Even Bulldog provide us with a service, it is BT =
=3D
> that had to provide the line up to the house. So if we were to take =
up =3D
> with BT, they'd come and inspect or install a new line within 7 days, =
=3D
> but as we were contractually obliged to continue with Bulldog when we =
=3D
> moved here, we had to wait 28 days. I'd go with what was NTL now =
Virgin =3D
> if I could simply because the infrastructure is new and more capable =
of =3D
> taking data transmissions. ADSL services are just tacking on an old =
=3D
> flaky network that was never designed for that purpose. But alas, we =
=3D
> all don't have the choice. There's a skill in choosing an Internet =
=3D
> Service Provider and I've made some blunders. BT's support is better =
=3D
> but they charge more. You have to ask how critical is the support and =
=3D
> how critical is the finance. Take a second line here, for example, =
=3D
> Bulldog will fit one for =3DA399.99 and will take up to 28 days as =
they =3D
> have to pass the request on to BT to undertake the work. For the same =
=3D
> service direct from BT and cut out the middle man it's =3DA3124.99. =
Then =3D
> the subsequent line rental from BT, if paid by Direct Debit, is =
=3DA311.00 =3D
> a month, whereas, Bulldog charge =3DA310.50 a month. There's also =
other =3D
> differences relating to the duration of the contract etc.. And this =
=3D
> just the phone line to carry the ADSL service.
>
> HTH
>
> Gena
>
> Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
>
> VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf =3D
> Of Amro Bilal
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:38 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
>
>
> Thanks much Gina. I'm reading through a few articles on the site =
you=3D20
> suggested, and still can't figure whether I would be better off with =
an =3D
> LLU=3D20
> ISP or a normal one as it were! I should do more reading I suppose. =
It's =3D
> a=3D20
> useful site BTW.
>
> Cheers for now,
> Amro
> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
> From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:21 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Well I didn't know and being a Bulldog customer I should have. A =3D
> quick =3D3D
>> search on google:
>>
>> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/jargon/index.php?cat=3D3D3D3#a13
>>
>>
>> 5. Local Loop Unbundling (LLU)
>> This is the process of freeing up an incumbent telephone operators =
=3D
> (e.g. =3D3D
>> BT) exchange so that rivals can install their own kit inside, thus =
=3D3D
>> bypassing the
>> incumbent and allowing for greater product price and flexibility.
>>
>> Gena
>>
>> Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
>>
>> VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =3D
> Behalf =3D3D
>> Of Amro Bilal
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:56 PM
>> To: Access-UK
>> Subject: [access-uk] LLU internet service provider?
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Sorry I know that this was mentioned before, but could someone please =
=3D
> =3D3D
>> remind me what an LLU internet service provider means? And would =3D
> someone =3D3D
>> know of an LLU ISP for that matter?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Amro
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