[access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
- From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:36:53 +0100
Quite right, Gina. I wish I lived in a cable area; I would've used Virgin's
cable services. I'm with Virgin now and I'm promised a speed up to 8Mb. My
line, according to BT, is a good line and can support this speed of data
transfer. However, with a contention rate exceeds 50-1 in peak times what do
I get? I sometimes don't even reach the 512Kb speed - 35/40Kbps; pathetic. I
understand that most likely no one would get the 8Mb downloading speed, but
in a good day my internet speed goes up to, just above, 1.5MB. I started
losing faith in the ADSL technology in whole. I'm prepared to pay that
little extra money and get a good service and decent after sales support.
But it seems that with internet home services that one pay more for a little
or no more gain. That's why I'm looking to understand what LLU ISP would
mean to me. I'm even considering looking for the more expensive business
internet services. Am I being just frustrated and impatient and dealing with
this the wrong way?
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
> Hi
>
> Just to throw more confusion into the pot. I wouldn't have thought it =
> is such a big issue. Even Bulldog provide us with a service, it is BT =
> that had to provide the line up to the house. So if we were to take up =
> with BT, they'd come and inspect or install a new line within 7 days, =
> but as we were contractually obliged to continue with Bulldog when we =
> moved here, we had to wait 28 days. I'd go with what was NTL now Virgin =
> if I could simply because the infrastructure is new and more capable of =
> taking data transmissions. ADSL services are just tacking on an old =
> flaky network that was never designed for that purpose. But alas, we =
> all don't have the choice. There's a skill in choosing an Internet =
> Service Provider and I've made some blunders. BT's support is better =
> but they charge more. You have to ask how critical is the support and =
> how critical is the finance. Take a second line here, for example, =
> Bulldog will fit one for =A399.99 and will take up to 28 days as they =
> have to pass the request on to BT to undertake the work. For the same =
> service direct from BT and cut out the middle man it's =A3124.99. Then =
> the subsequent line rental from BT, if paid by Direct Debit, is =A311.00 =
> a month, whereas, Bulldog charge =A310.50 a month. There's also other =
> differences relating to the duration of the contract etc.. And this =
> just the phone line to carry the ADSL service.
>
> HTH
>
> Gena
>
> Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
>
> VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
> Of Amro Bilal
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:38 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
>
>
> Thanks much Gina. I'm reading through a few articles on the site you=20
> suggested, and still can't figure whether I would be better off with an =
> LLU=20
> ISP or a normal one as it were! I should do more reading I suppose. It's =
> a=20
> useful site BTW.
>
> Cheers for now,
> Amro
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena-j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:21 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: LLU internet service provider?
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Well I didn't know and being a Bulldog customer I should have. A =
> quick =3D
>> search on google:
>>
>> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/jargon/index.php?cat=3D3D3#a13
>>
>>
>> 5. Local Loop Unbundling (LLU)
>> This is the process of freeing up an incumbent telephone operators =
> (e.g. =3D
>> BT) exchange so that rivals can install their own kit inside, thus =3D
>> bypassing the
>> incumbent and allowing for greater product price and flexibility.
>>
>> Gena
>>
>> Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
>>
>> VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
> Behalf =3D
>> Of Amro Bilal
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:56 PM
>> To: Access-UK
>> Subject: [access-uk] LLU internet service provider?
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Sorry I know that this was mentioned before, but could someone please =
> =3D
>> remind me what an LLU internet service provider means? And would =
> someone =3D
>> know of an LLU ISP for that matter?
>>
>> TIA,
>> Amro
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