Sorry for being late on this thread, but I'm just catching up on hundreds
of
e-mails after ten days away.
I'd be interested to know whether anyone has had success in obtaining the
KNFB Reader through Access To Work. Is it the kind of product they are
willing to fund, or have most people found it necessary to fund it
themselves?
Thanks,
Caroline.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Steve Dryden
Sent: 27 June 2009 21:01
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
Actually Elanor, I'd say you'd have a much better chance of getting the
KNF
over the DBT upgrade any day. Duxbury is hardly going to give you much
additional functionality, mind you, I guess it does depend on which
version
you have. If it is pre 2005 I think the braille code has changed. I'm
sure
you could put forward a suitable case for being able to read supplementary
notes and classwork if you go to their workshops.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "ELEANOR BURKE" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
Thank you Steve for that. I have to say that this product is very
expensive but revolutionary for blind people. As a student (I am not
employed) I think from what I've heard about it that student's should be
able to apply for it but I cannot imagine myself having approval for such
an item, I've had enough trouble obtaining a braille embossor which is an
item of equipment only required by a blind person and I had an assessor
at
the Open University who said I did not need an upgrade of DBT so can you
imagine me looking for KNFB Reader, smile.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
Hi Eleanor,
This is one of my criticisms of KNFB Reader, and that is there is no 30
day
demo. There really should be considering the cost of it.
I hope Jackie or someone at S and S will pass that on. There is after
all,
demos of Talks, and because KNFB is harder to use until you learn how to
align the camera, it is even more important that they should let you
have
a
demo.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
ELEANOR BURKE
Sent: Saturday 27 June 2009 10:51
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
Thanks Jackie. I must do that either sight village or a demo from
someone.
Only thing is then I will want one!!! Smile.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: KNFB Mobile Demo
Hi Eleanor
The K-NFB Reader software is, indeed, the product which goes on the N82
or
6220 Classic.
Sight Village is being held in Birmingham between 14 and 16 July,
inclusive. There may well be a Sight Village London later in the year.
If, however, you would like a demo, then just call the office and
someone
will help you, and answer any questions you have.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Telephone: 01604 798024
Fax: 01604 798090
Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of ELEANOR BURKE
Sent: 27 June 2009 10:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] KNFB Mobile Demo
Hi Jackie
Is this KNFB reader the one people use with mobile phones? I woujld
love
to have a demo. Remind me please if you do not mind, when and where is
Sight Village? Will it be in london this year also?
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
I would just like to say that, as an end user for many years of
assistive
technology, I care passionately about customer care and support. Much
of
the equipment we buy costs a lot of money, and it is important to know
if
a
particular piece of kit is right for you.
All I can say, without advertising, is that if anyone requires a
demonstration of the products we sell, you contact the office and ask
for
one. We try to offer no-obligation demonstrations throughout the UK.
Admittedly, there are some far-flung places where going to demo a
piece
of
equipment can be costly, and we do try to make every effort to
accommodate
such a scenario.
In my role, I look after all the Braille products and K-NFB Reader
mobile.
I have met so many people in the last year, and been able to put
voices
to
the names I have conversed with through Email over several years of
being
on these lists. It's the customer focus and ensuring that a person
gets
what they want out of technology that makes my job so worthwhile and
rewarding.
I'm sorry Carol that you have had an unfortunate experience.
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: Jackie.Cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
Welton House North Wing
Summerhouse Road
Moulton Park
Northampton
NN3 6WD
Telephone: 01604 798024
Fax: 01604 798090
Web: www.sightandsound.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of roger south
Sent: 24 June 2009 15:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: TIME FOR A RANT ...
Hi Carol
You have my sympathy as I've been down that street as well. Several
years
ago I wanted to buy a portable book reader and the one to have was the
Road Runner. I have a severe hearing loss and therefore hear mostly
electronically. This made me wary as to whether it would be suitable
for
me.
I phoned the dealer and was told the price etc. I explained my
difficulty
and fears so would I be able to return it if I needed to. In no
circumstances I was told as the machine would be second hand. If it
was
unsuitable I'd have to find a buyer to purchase it off me. What he
didn't
realise and was not interested in listening to was that only the
actual
machine would be used briefly as I would have used my own batteries
out
of
courtesy and I never use head-phones ever as they are of no use to me.
My
own induction loop would have been plugged in instead.
Another list member agreed to meet me and allow me to try his. It
transpired I was unable to get on with it and never did purchase one.
But
the dealer in question, due to his short sightedness and rude
behaviour
has lost a potential customer for life. I would wait for hell to
freeze
over before I bought even a box of matches from him in the future.
Rger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Access UK Mailing List" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:10 AM
Subject: [access-uk] TIME FOR A RANT ...
Hi all,
I don't exactly apologise for this post and I'll try to keep it brief!
I've just written about my recent experience when visiting the RNIB
shop
at
Judd Street for the first time a few weeks back ...
(I won't repeat here what I wrote there ...)
My quest to get a proper indepth demonstration of the Plextalk Pocket
has
been exceedingly difficult ... and I've now decided to give it up.
Not only was I unable to get anything like a demonstration at the
RNIB,
but
I have declined to purchase the "Infotech" article. This was the last
nail
in the coffin for me! I was told this would cost me £10 as I'm not a
regular subscriber to "Infotech" and you can no longer purchase
individual
articles at a reasonable rate. I think £10 is too steep and, despite
my
writing both Brian and Terry at T&T, I heard nothing from them.
Well, that's just too bad! It seems my quest for a recorder I'll
really
like and get on with is just not to be!
Surely, it ought to be easier than this to get proper demonstrations
and
a
working knowledge of this high tech stuff for which we have to pay
fairly
high prices anyway ...
OK - rant over!
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