Roger - Him being dead could be a stumbling block :] - Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| Hi Andy
|
| Why do you think Jim Dale won't read the new book? If the money is right
I'm
| sure he will.
|
| Roger
|
| Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:27 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
|
|
| > To be honest, I have prefered the Jim Dale readings, but JK is going
to
| > have
| > a problem getting him to read the new book! :]
| >
| > I'm always pleased to hear of improvements, and it does sound like the
| > RNIB
| > library will have improved from the change in law, but what about
their
| > thousands of old recordings, have they been dropped? I would expect
not -
| > Andy
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:45 PM
| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| >
| >
| > |J K Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, stipulated the
audio
| > | versions must be read by Stephen Fry in the UK and Jim Dale in the
US.
| > To
| > my
| > | knowledge no other versions are available at all.
| > |
| > | Out of interest to Andy the RNIB books are now all read by
professional
| > | readers. Mainly actors but also news readers and disc jockeys.
People
| > who
| > | use their voices in their profession and therefore have more control
of
| > the
| > | tones used.
| > |
| > | I have a very severe hearing loss, 97/98%, so quality sound is
vitally
| > | important to me but I don't often have problems with either the RNIB
or
| > the
| > | CALIBRE books which are the ones recorded in the later years. I
| > understand
| > | they both once used volunteers who may have been a little lacking
but
| > those
| > | days are long gone.
| > |
| > | Roger
| > |
| > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > |
| > |
| > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:31 PM
| > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > |
| > |
| > | > Andy, and further to Iain's comment, the version sold by RNIB will
| > | > indeed be the Stephen Fry reading of HP. You see RNIB is allowed
to
| > | > DAISIFY commercial books since the changes in copyright law.
| > | >
| > | > Cheers,
| > | >
| > | > From Ray
| > | > I can be contacted off-list at:
| > | > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
| > | >
| > | > -----Original Message-----
| > | > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
| > | > Behalf
| > | > Of Iain Lackie
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some bloke
they
| > | > have
| > | > dragged in offf the streets.
| > | >
| > | > Iain
| > | >
| > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by
Stephen
| > | > Frye,
| > | > or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other of
their
| > | > 'recordings? :] - Andy
| > | >
| > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > | > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM
| > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally applied
to
| > | > | specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of
right.
| > | > |
| > | > | Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I contend.
| > | > First
| > | > | off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial
recording
| > | > of
| > | > | it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc.
| > | > Visually
| > | > | impaired people are not the only audience either for these
books.
| > | > OK,
| > | > | so this is a popular title that will be bought by many thousands
of
| > | > | people, but don't forget that public libraries are a gaurantteed
| > | > | market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of access
tech
| > | > | sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a
price
| > | > | that couldn't be got otherwise.
| > | > |
| > | > | Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the
realities
as
| > | > I
| > | > | see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged ones,
are
| > | > | always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The
only
| > | > way
| > | > | this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that RNIB
as
| > | > a
| > | > | charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of
| > | > talking
| > | > | books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your
way
| > | > out
| > | > | of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print book
| > | > buying
| > | > | genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from RNIB.
(No
| > | > | commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've never
made
| > | > it
| > | > | in the big bad world of business!
| > | > |
| > | > | Cheers,
| > | > |
| > | > | From Ray
| > | > | I can be contacted off-list at:
| > | > | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
| > | > | -----Original Message-----
| > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
| > | > | Behalf Of roger south
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions but
not
| > | > | as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the
| > | > | manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more money
with
| > | > | the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel
that
| > | > | keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere.
| > | > |
| > | > | When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises just
| > | > that
| > | > | point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter is
| > | > | priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a
few
| > | > days
| > | > | after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous
books
| > | > | are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at around
8
| > | > | pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have to
pay
| > | > | £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The
same
is
| > | > | true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my soapbox
so
| > | > | I'll shut up now.
| > | > |
| > | > | Roger
| > | > |
| > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | From: Ian Macrae
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive comparatively
| > | > | dunnit. any views?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
| > | > | Behalf Of roger south
| > | > | Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15
| > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p
totalling
| > | > | altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the
write-ups
| > | > | very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can give
it
| > | > | away as a present and not lose any sleep.
| > | > |
| > | > | Roger
| > | > |
| > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ----- Original Message -----
| > | > | From: Adrian Higginbotham
| > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM
| > | > | Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless audible
| > | > | compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no
| > | > | proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB
drive.
| > | > | http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Adrian Higginbotham
| > | >
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