Hi, In fairness, since Window-Eyes 8, WE is now truly portable as well. You get somewhat limited functionality, but you can install WE to a pen drive without installing the video interceptor and it will talk, much like NVDA or System Access, without an Off Screen Model. Window-Eyes 8 will also now speak in Safe Mode. In fact any screen reader will speak in Safe Mode if you hack the registry, but Window-Eyes allows you to set it to do it within the user interface, so you don't have to be a geek to do it. And yes, before I get flamed for merely having an opinion, I am a dealer for System Access as well. But most of the screen readers in my opinion have strengths and weaknesses over others. The only screen reader I truly don't get on with is Thunder. I am also a blind user and consumer of this tech as well. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: 09 January 2013 22:25 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws license annoyance, thinking of swapping to window eyes Well, now if you forget your dongle or lose it that, in all fairness, is not FS's fault. If win eyes works for you, so much the better. You may also want to consider system access that has lifetime access and comes with a portable version that you can take whereever you go and which, like nvda, is truly portable. Hope you find and can finance whatever works best for you! Doris At 08:25 PM 1/9/2013 +0000, you wrote: >Hi > >In deed you can "pay" for a dongle, on top of the high price already >charged. Then likely I would lose it, or forget to take it to work, or vice >versa, then I'm stuffed again. > >I'm using a demo of window eyes at the moment, and it is working as well as >jfw so far. > >Thanks. > >-----Original Message----- >From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >On Behalf Of Doris and Chris >Sent: 09 January 2013 17:26 >To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws license annoyance, thinking of swapping to >window eyes > >Remember you can always request a hardware dongle from FS also. > >When I last heard, Window Eyes came with the serial number branded into each >individual program disk. WE does phone home when you install it but I >haven't heard anyone complaining that they were not able to install their >window eyes on the computers they needed it on. > >I think our friend Steve Nut on here is a window eyes reseller and will be >able to shed more light on this. > >hth > >Doris > >At 04:15 PM 1/9/2013 +0000, you wrote: > >Hi all > > > >I won't bore you with my rant about having to keep asking for my dam > >jaws keys to be re-setby FS, as it's long. > > > >What I wanted to know, is how window eyes is activated and or authorised. > > > >Is it the same annoying method that FS use, or a sensible mainstream > >method, i.e. you are provided with a serial number, and can install it > >on your own pc as many times as you choose. > > > >Thanks for any help. > > > >Terry > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >On Behalf Of roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx > >Sent: 09 January 2013 16:02 > >To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audible Books > > > >Hi Andy > > > >For the moment I'm only using the Scandisk Clip+ for a trial period. I > >don't think this device has any more than track ability available. If I > >get on well with using extra books I am considering the Victor Reader >Stream. > > > >Roger > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Adrien Collins > >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:07 PM > >To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audible Books > > > >Hi Roger > > > >If you are using a victor stream or perhaps a booksense, you can rewind > >by 1 minute or 5 or 10 and even up to 30 on the stream, not sure about > >the booksense, how would this work on the plextalk pocket I wonder? > > > >Adrien > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >On Behalf Of roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx > >Sent: 07 January 2013 21:43 > >To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [access-uk] Audible Books > > > >Hi All > > > >I've just joined the Audible UK book library and have just downloaded > >my first book. Quite a long one at 32 hours and only in 4 parts. This > >means if I need to go back over ground already read I can only do so by > >going back to the start of the current track which are around 8 hours > >long. It would be just great to break these down into smaller tracks > >but the file format is .aa which I understand is Audible's encrypted > >system which is not breakable by any software available. > > > >If this is correct does anyone know of a solution to my problem, please. > > > >Many thanks > > > >Roger > > > >** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >** and in the Subject line type > >** unsubscribe > >** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > >** immediately-following link:- > >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > >** or send a message, to > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > >** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >** and in the Subject line type > >** unsubscribe > >** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > >** immediately-following link:- > >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > >** or send a message, to > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > >** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >** and in the Subject line type > >** unsubscribe > >** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > >** immediately-following link:- > >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > >** or send a message, to > >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > >** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >** and in the Subject line type >** unsubscribe >** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >** immediately-following link:- >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >** or send a message, to >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > >** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >** and in the Subject line type >** unsubscribe >** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >** immediately-following link:- >** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >** or send a message, to >** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq