[access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:31:45 -0000
Daniel is a good voice to have, but how long before you can get him with
Window Eyes?
Cheers
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
> Hi.
>
> I would certainly agree that too much of what HJ are doing is bug fixes
> and
> not enough is new features but as far as Vista goes I understood that FS
> were going to release a free update to JAWS version 8.
>
> As far as real speak is concerned, I am myself quite happy with Eloquence
> but I have been using speech synthesisers for some time.
>
> for those that have not, my own evidence suggests that they find the real
> speak synths much easier to understand.
>
> If i'm reading a long text, give me Braille any time but that's my
> personal
> preference and fortunately I have the sense of touch required to read
> Braille and I have been able to access Braille classes at school.
>
> regards
>
> Graham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:12 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I now have the RTM DVD of Vista though won't be trying it. The point I =
> was trying to make was that this 8.0 came only a few days after the =
> hotfix for 7.10, we were quite happy with this hotfix for IE, and FS =
> could have spent longer testing the v8 version, possibly getting a =
> version that has Vista compatability out end of Jan/middle of Feb =
> sometime.
>
> As Barry says the new features in it aren't really worth bothering with, =
> there is in the new features list some Jaws keystrokes for moving round =
> tabs in IE7, the thing is that those are Windows commands and I can do =
> this fine now in version 7.10!
>
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
> Of Dj Paddy
> Sent: 20 November 2006 21:25
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
> Vista will be out January 30.
>
> The Gold Disc was released on November 8, and the MSDN guys and =
> Corporate=20
> customers will have it if not now then by the end of this month.
>
> The main reason January 30 is set for consumers is because of driver=20
> compatibilitys with current hardware. To give the hardware vendors a =
> window=20
> to update their drivers.
>
> My reason for calling it a disaster is that it's not moving forward. =
> It's=20
> not adding any real, everyday functionality, I didnt' see anything about =
>
> Office 2007, SAPI Alia's?
>
> coem on. Able to switch the voice ont he fly when reading text?
>
> That's not screen and application access, that's just a bit of fancy =
> reading=20
> scripting.
>
> I to was once int he comfort zone of Jaws and occasionally go back. =
> Old=20
> habits die hard.
>
> Dj Paddy
> =D4=E0=06
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:38 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
> Fs haven't committed to making this upgrade vista-compatible, but then =
> at
> the moment we don't know when vista will be released yet, so that seems
> reasonable enough to me. I wonder what level of access to Vista WE =
> users
> will get for what they have already paid? JAWS has done a great job for =
> me
> for the last nine years, I agree that WE is catching up, and is probably
> ahead in terms of its user interface being far simpler etc, but I see no
> reason for calling the latest version of JAWS a "disaster".
>
> ali, what specific problems are you having with JAWS 8?
>
> James
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:30 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>
>
>> Windoweye's is definitly a different animal and I get frustrated when =
> i
>> don't know how to perform various reading tasks and I just need to get =
> the
>> job done.
>>
>> However, i feel Windoweye's is the wisest route to go.
>>
>> I will spare you all a rant on Jaws. My comments speak for themselves =
> on
>> my
>> previous message.
>>
>> Dj paddy
>> =D4=E0=06
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 4:23 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I like most people am staying away from Jaws 8 and am migrating to
>> WindowEyes as much as possible. I am still falling back to the jaws
>> keystrokes quite a bit, but am getting there.
>>
>> Why they released version 8 days after releasing the 7.10 update was a
>> mystery - they had precious time to do more tests on it, plus make =
> version
>> 8
>> a Vista compatible upgrade!
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dj Paddy
>> Sent: Mon 20/11/2006 16:20
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>>
>> This is shocking.
>>
>> I've just been reading the latest disaster and can not believe =
> somebody is
>> honestly going to pay for this.
>>
>> This thing isn't even supporting Vista for goodness sake!
>>
>> And what is all that SAPI Alia's stuff about in say all?
>>
>> OMG, that's a new feature?
>>
>> More and more nonsense!
>>
>> I'm raging because, I like many wasted my money on this rubbish for =
> years!
>>
>> I'm disgusted because, many still will! Also rehab agency's and that
>> whole
>> area will thrust this product on unsuspecting souls.
>>
>> Note: this is a consumers viewpoint and I think it's utter pooh.
>> Barry
>> =D4=E0=06
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:39 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws V 8.0
>>
>>
>> Andrew, for details of JAWS 8 go to:
>>
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_products/software_jaws80fea.asp#OS
>>
>> From Ray
>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On =
> Behalf
>> Of andrew shipp
>>
>> Hi All, What are the benefits of upgrading to Jaws V 8.0?
>> Regards
>>
>> Andrew Shipp
>>
>> Located Northampton Northamptonshire UK
>>
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>>
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