[access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement

  • From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:16:24 -0000

Sorry buddy, I'm not sure how you do that in other screen readers. I'll leave answering that to the Window Eyes users! 


Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement



Hi Amro, & All,

Thanks for that.
Now do you know if those other screen readers have the faacility as in Jaws whereby you can route Jaws to PC?
I NEED THAT FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO ctivate my 3 mobile broadband as discussed in an earlier thread. 

TonyA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement



Oh sorry, Tony, I missed the earlier message you speak of...
Well, in this case, you can run either Jaws10 or Window Eyes in the 40 minute mode. Another suggestion is SAToGo; you need to be connected to the internet to use this one. Go to satogo.com and follow the spoken instructions. NVDA is certainly a good alternative screen reader too.
I missed the earlier thread so hope I'm not just repeating something you already know. 

Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement



Hi Amro,
Don't know did you see my original email to the list on the subject of a temporary replacement for Jaws!
I will be getting Jaws 10 in the next couple of weeks but need something screenreader-wise to tide me over.
I can post the list on another occasion with the problems I'm having with Jaws 8! 

Someone off list suggested NVDA which might do for now.
A peculiar thing happened that I somehow activated another voice whilst on Jaws so when I unloaded Jaws the other cvoice went also!
Now I don't know if it was another jaws voice but the two were reading an email I was ron both together.
The voice sounds like what you would hear on a mobile phone reading emails; not.
As far as I remember I have only NVDA installed as another screen reader! 

Thanks

Tony
----- Original Message ----- From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:36 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement



Hi there Tony,
What's the problem? Why are you looking for Jaws replacement? Other than me being nosy *Smile* it'll help us giving a good advice if we know the reason... 

Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:53 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement



Eleanor,
Now with your great influnce, and a good friend to us, could you have some 
people answer my query on a temp replacement for now for jaws!

Kindest of regards

Tony
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:15 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you



That is where I saw it Tony.

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you 


> Hi Eleanor,
>
> Couldn't agree more!
>
> I took the liberty of forwarding it to another list I'm on wich is > in 
> Ireland!
>
> More please!
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:01 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank > you 
>
>
>> This was excellent George. Look forward to another lesson from >> you. 
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you
>>
>>
>>> Note I've changed the Subject line.
>>>
>>> "Google is very often your friend.". I could not agree with you >>> more >>> here, Steve. It is well worth spending time learning about how >>> to use 
a

>>> search
>>> engine like this. So here are some very, very basic tips.
>>>
>>> Let's say you are looking for something about Louise Braille - >>> his 
>>> birthday perhaps.
>>>
>>> If you simply type in say
>>>
>>> Louis Braille
>>>
>>> You will get around 580,000 hits.
>>>
>>> If you type in
>>>
>>> Louis Braille +birthday
>>>
>>> Note the use of the + sign in front of "birthday" - this means >>> that 
>>> your results MUST include that word.
>>>
>>> You will end up with about 26,500 hits.
>>>
>>> So you look at the first few, and discover that there's a 200th
>>> birthday celebration going on, and so you want to know more. >>> Type in 
>>>
>>> Louis Braille +Birthday +200
>>>
>>> And you are down to about 8,600 hits.
>>>
>>> Now lets get really extreme and go for the following:
>>>
>>> louis Braille +Birthday +200 -UK -France +USA
>>>
>>> Now we've added a minus sign to eliminate any results that have a
>>> reference to the UK and France, but include anything referring to >>> the 
>>> USA.
>>>
>>> And we're down to 1,230 hits.
>>>
>>> Are you getting the general idea?
>>>
>>> Now for another trick. One of the items I found above, refers >>> to: 
>>>
>>> tactile communication system for the blind
>>>
>>> But if I type that in, I get 51,100 hits. BUT, if I enclose it >>> in 
>>> quotes as follows:
>>>
>>> "tactile communication system for the blind"
>>>
>>> We are down to just 9 hits, because the search is looking for an >>> exact 
>>> match.
>>>
>>> I'm no expert at all this searching, but just those few basic >>> tips can >>> help greatly when you are looking for something in the early >>> hours of 
>>> the morning when few others are on the lists.
>>>
>>> It also makes searching fun, and indeed can be quite addictive.
>>>
>>> George.
>>>
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