[access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:50:40 -0000
Hi Tony,
Window-Eyes does.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
tony sweeney
Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 12:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
Hi Amro, & All,
Thanks for that.
Now do you know if those other screen readers have the faacility as in Jaws
whereby you can route Jaws to PC?
I NEED THAT FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO ctivate my 3 mobile broadband as
discussed in an earlier thread.
TonyA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
> Oh sorry, Tony, I missed the earlier message you speak of...
>
> Well, in this case, you can run either Jaws10 or Window Eyes in the 40
> minute mode. Another suggestion is SAToGo; you need to be connected to the
> internet to use this one. Go to satogo.com and follow the spoken
> instructions. NVDA is certainly a good alternative screen reader too.
>
> I missed the earlier thread so hope I'm not just repeating something you
> already know.
>
> Cheers,
> Amro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:53 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>
>
>> Hi Amro,
>>
>> Don't know did you see my original email to the list on the subject of a
>> temporary replacement for Jaws!
>>
>> I will be getting Jaws 10 in the next couple of weeks but need something
>> screenreader-wise to tide me over.
>>
>> I can post the list on another occasion with the problems I'm having with
>> Jaws 8!
>>
>> Someone off list suggested NVDA which might do for now.
>>
>> A peculiar thing happened that I somehow activated another voice whilst
>> on Jaws so when I unloaded Jaws the other cvoice went also!
>>
>> Now I don't know if it was another jaws voice but the two were reading an
>> email I was ron both together.
>>
>> The voice sounds like what you would hear on a mobile phone reading
>> emails; not.
>>
>> As far as I remember I have only NVDA installed as another screen reader!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tony
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:36 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>
>>
>>> Hi there Tony,
>>>
>>> What's the problem? Why are you looking for Jaws replacement? Other than
>>> me being nosy *Smile* it'll help us giving a good advice if we know the
>>> reason...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Amro
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:53 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>>
>>>
>>>> Eleanor,
>>>>
>>>> Now with your great influnce, and a good friend to us, could you have
>>>> some
>>>> people answer my query on a temp replacement for now for jaws!
>>>>
>>>> Kindest of regards
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:15 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That is where I saw it Tony.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi Eleanor,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Couldn't agree more!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I took the liberty of forwarding it to another list I'm on wich is
>>>>> > in
>>>>> > Ireland!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > More please!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tony
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:01 PM
>>>>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank
>>>>> > you
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> This was excellent George. Look forward to another lesson from
>>>>> >> you.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Eleanor
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: [access-uk] Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Note I've changed the Subject line.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> "Google is very often your friend.". I could not agree with you
>>>>> >>> more
>>>>> >>> here, Steve. It is well worth spending time learning about how to
>>>>> >>> use
>>>> a
>>>>> >>> search
>>>>> >>> engine like this. So here are some very, very basic tips.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Let's say you are looking for something about Louise Braille - his
>>>>> >>> birthday perhaps.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If you simply type in say
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Louis Braille
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> You will get around 580,000 hits.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If you type in
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +birthday
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Note the use of the + sign in front of "birthday" - this means
>>>>> >>> that
>>>>> >>> your results MUST include that word.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> You will end up with about 26,500 hits.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> So you look at the first few, and discover that there's a 200th
>>>>> >>> birthday celebration going on, and so you want to know more. Type
>>>>> >>> in
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +Birthday +200
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> And you are down to about 8,600 hits.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Now lets get really extreme and go for the following:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> louis Braille +Birthday +200 -UK -France +USA
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Now we've added a minus sign to eliminate any results that have a
>>>>> >>> reference to the UK and France, but include anything referring to
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> USA.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> And we're down to 1,230 hits.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Are you getting the general idea?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Now for another trick. One of the items I found above, refers to:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> tactile communication system for the blind
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> But if I type that in, I get 51,100 hits. BUT, if I enclose it in
>>>>> >>> quotes as follows:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> "tactile communication system for the blind"
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We are down to just 9 hits, because the search is looking for an
>>>>> >>> exact
>>>>> >>> match.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I'm no expert at all this searching, but just those few basic tips
>>>>> >>> can
>>>>> >>> help greatly when you are looking for something in the early hours
>>>>> >>> of
>>>>> >>> the morning when few others are on the lists.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> It also makes searching fun, and indeed can be quite addictive.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> George.
>>>>> >>>
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