[access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
- From: Chris Hallsworth <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:11:56 -0000
I found Window-Eyes to be pretty unresponsive on my Vista machine. I'm also
not keen on the fact it's not as intuitive as JAWS is, particularly when it
comes to configuring the program to work both globally and for specific
applications. So I just stick to JAWS now but I do hope Window-Eyes has some
future ahead.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:58 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
Hi Chris,
You won't offend me by giving an opinion and expanding on it.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Chris Hallsworth
Sent: Saturday 7 March 2009 12:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
Window-Eyes in fact runs an unlimited number of times, except you can only
use it for 30 minutes per Windows session. It's actually 35 minutes, but the
last 5 minutes, Window-Eyes will speak a message every 15 seconds. I
personally don't think it's as good as JAWS, but won't pass on too many
comments in case I offend Steve <grins>.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
How many times can the 40 minute demo be used? Could I use it with Windows
XP Pro? Is it better than Jaws? Where would I get a list of shortcut
commands?
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07:03:2009 11:33 am
Hi Tony,
No, Window-Eyes is not free, but you can download the 40 minute demo.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
tony sweeney
Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 16:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
Hi Steve,
That is a screen reader for non-vision people?
Is it free?
Thanks
Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
> Hi Tony,
>
> Window-Eyes does.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> tony sweeney
> Sent: Thursday 5 March 2009 12:52
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>
> Hi Amro, & All,
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> Now do you know if those other screen readers have the faacility as in
> Jaws
>
> whereby you can route Jaws to PC?
>
> I NEED THAT FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO ctivate my 3 mobile broadband as
> discussed in an earlier thread.
>
> TonyA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:27 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>
>
>> Oh sorry, Tony, I missed the earlier message you speak of...
>>
>> Well, in this case, you can run either Jaws10 or Window Eyes in the 40
>> minute mode. Another suggestion is SAToGo; you need to be connected to
>> the
>
>> internet to use this one. Go to satogo.com and follow the spoken
>> instructions. NVDA is certainly a good alternative screen reader too.
>>
>> I missed the earlier thread so hope I'm not just repeating something you
>> already know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Amro
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:53 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>
>>
>>> Hi Amro,
>>>
>>> Don't know did you see my original email to the list on the subject of a
>>> temporary replacement for Jaws!
>>>
>>> I will be getting Jaws 10 in the next couple of weeks but need something
>>> screenreader-wise to tide me over.
>>>
>>> I can post the list on another occasion with the problems I'm having
>>> with
>
>>> Jaws 8!
>>>
>>> Someone off list suggested NVDA which might do for now.
>>>
>>> A peculiar thing happened that I somehow activated another voice whilst
>>> on Jaws so when I unloaded Jaws the other cvoice went also!
>>>
>>> Now I don't know if it was another jaws voice but the two were reading
>>> an
>
>>> email I was ron both together.
>>>
>>> The voice sounds like what you would hear on a mobile phone reading
>>> emails; not.
>>>
>>> As far as I remember I have only NVDA installed as another screen
>>> reader!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tony
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Amro Bilal" <amro_bilal@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi there Tony,
>>>>
>>>> What's the problem? Why are you looking for Jaws replacement? Other
>>>> than
>
>>>> me being nosy *Smile* it'll help us giving a good advice if we know the
>>>> reason...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Amro
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Replacement
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Eleanor,
>>>>>
>>>>> Now with your great influnce, and a good friend to us, could you have
>>>>> some
>>>>> people answer my query on a temp replacement for now for jaws!
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindest of regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is where I saw it Tony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eleanor
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "tony sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:08 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Hi Eleanor,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Couldn't agree more!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I took the liberty of forwarding it to another list I'm on wich is
>>>>>> > in
>>>>>> > Ireland!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > More please!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Tony
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:01 PM
>>>>>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank
>>>>>> > you
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> This was excellent George. Look forward to another lesson from
>>>>>> >> you.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Eleanor
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: [access-uk] Internet Searching: Was: usb sticks thank you
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Note I've changed the Subject line.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> "Google is very often your friend.". I could not agree with you
>>>>>> >>> more
>>>>>> >>> here, Steve. It is well worth spending time learning about how
>>>>>> >>> to
>
>>>>>> >>> use
>>>>> a
>>>>>> >>> search
>>>>>> >>> engine like this. So here are some very, very basic tips.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Let's say you are looking for something about Louise Braille -
>>>>>> >>> his
>>>>>> >>> birthday perhaps.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> If you simply type in say
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Louis Braille
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> You will get around 580,000 hits.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> If you type in
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +birthday
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Note the use of the + sign in front of "birthday" - this means
>>>>>> >>> that
>>>>>> >>> your results MUST include that word.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> You will end up with about 26,500 hits.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> So you look at the first few, and discover that there's a 200th
>>>>>> >>> birthday celebration going on, and so you want to know more.
>>>>>> >>> Type
>
>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Louis Braille +Birthday +200
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> And you are down to about 8,600 hits.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Now lets get really extreme and go for the following:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> louis Braille +Birthday +200 -UK -France +USA
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Now we've added a minus sign to eliminate any results that have a
>>>>>> >>> reference to the UK and France, but include anything referring to
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> USA.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> And we're down to 1,230 hits.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Are you getting the general idea?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Now for another trick. One of the items I found above, refers
>>>>>> >>> to:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> tactile communication system for the blind
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> But if I type that in, I get 51,100 hits. BUT, if I enclose it
>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>> >>> quotes as follows:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> "tactile communication system for the blind"
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> We are down to just 9 hits, because the search is looking for an
>>>>>> >>> exact
>>>>>> >>> match.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I'm no expert at all this searching, but just those few basic
>>>>>> >>> tips
>
>>>>>> >>> can
>>>>>> >>> help greatly when you are looking for something in the early
>>>>>> >>> hours
>
>>>>>> >>> of
>>>>>> >>> the morning when few others are on the lists.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> It also makes searching fun, and indeed can be quite addictive.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> George.
>>>>>> >>>
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