Though at home my video drivers have never been updated, here at work I understand that's not an issue. That said I'm not about to move over to WindowEyes because I think the people who like it are a bit peculiar, have hair on the palms of their hands and may also be radio hams. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: 25 July 2005 14:24 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap If JAWS 6.2 was generally as bad as has been suggested, I'm sure there would be many, many more postings. As Brian and Sunil have both said, in many cases where problems are experienced, it comes down to some other system factor or factors. These days, it is essential to keep your system up to date, not just with Microsoft Critical and Recommended Updates, but also video and sound drivers. Microsoft don't generally supply more than basic generic drivers, leaving it to the manufacturers of the video and sound cards to provide their own. It's all too easy to forget to update these. All screen readers have to rely of sound and video, and since this kind of software relies heavily on both media, any weaknesses can cause major discomfort. Unfortunately too, JAWS has relocated their script files in order to allow users who share one PC to maintain different user profiles. Again, it is easy to forget to merge previous setting with the new, and indeed it can be a tricky process in itself. George. > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen > Sent: 25 July 2005 14:03 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap > > Well done Sunil for putting it so eloquently. It could be a > whole variety of factors. > Brian Hartgen > E-MAIL: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx > MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx > SKYPE: brianhartgen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:46 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap > > > > Because the problems he's having just might not have anything to do > > with JFW? It could be something else on his system interfering with > > Jaws and preventing it from doing its excellent job...JAWS > RULES, OK. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Peter Beasley > > Sent: 25 July 2005 13:41 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap > > > > > > Why not try Window-eyes > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:20 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I am not impressed with jaws 6.* at all. > >> > >> Reason being that it has screwed up some of the functions > that I use > >> very very regularly almost every minute of the day at work. > >> > >> Its responsiveness has died when it comes to writing. I > always have > >> the echo set to words. After you've written about 3 or 4 words the > >> echo fails to be as responsive and so you're writing blind, as it > >> were. > >> > >> Also I've noticed that my soundcard fails with JAWS 6.2 - I find > >> myself regularly having to turn my computer off and back > on again - > >> it > > > >> is not something that can be fixed with a simple unloading of jaws. > >> The braille works but the speech dies several times a day. > >> > >> The control+F find function in Internet Explorer - though everso > >> slightly better than the Find funtion in jaws 6.0 - is > nearly useless. > > > >> I use this feature very regularly to find words and > character strings > >> on a web page to avoid having to search a whole screen > manually. All > >> user testing of websites I've done with jaws users shows > me that lots > >> of blind people use control+f in this way. Actually every > single one > >> of the people I've tested uses it in this way very frequently > >> throughout the day. To have it broken and or very badly > responsive is > >> bad enough. To have a find function that, when you hit enter, > >> actually > > > >> activates a hot spot on the page and sends you to another > page rather > >> than searching down is a joke. And oftentimes the control+F find > >> function tells me a string doesn't exist on the page when > I know it > >> damn well does. > >> > >> Grrr. > >> > >> Is anyone else deeply unimpressed with jaws 6 series? I'm > yet to find > >> anything better in it than jaws 5. > >> > >> ...Damon > >> > >> > >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > >> > >> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > >> personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless > specifically > >> stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it > from your > >> system. 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