[access-uk] Re: Is it illegal
- From: "Adrien Collins" <adriencollins22160@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:11:06 +0200
It maybe worth speaking to rnib about this one, perhaps they
can design a guide to distribute to us all for this very
purpose. When you give your pin to someone, you have no
knowing how much money they are actually taking, you may
need £20 but they may take £50 and only give you the 20.
just one of my thoughts.
Regards
Adrien
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Hill
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:26 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal
I didn't realise that you were trusting 12 support workers
with your pin
number. To trust more than one is a risk for both you and
them, regardless
of CRB checks and your judgment. Both can be wrong. A CRB
check only means
that the person hasn't been caught doing something dodgie,
it doesn't mean
that they are not capable.
If you gave your pin to more than one person and, on the off
chance, money
did go missing, then each could blame the other.
I have thought of an alternative that might work. Perhaps
someone could
make up a jig that could go over the pin machine that you
could put your
fingers through so that you could put the pin in yourself.
Awkward, I can
imagine, but would it be possible?
Cheers
Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
andrew shipp
Sent: 10 July 2011 9:29 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal
yes I understand all that. but if all the support workers
are CRB
checked then this is saying that they are safe. I've
got about twelve
support workers here and not one of them uses my card
without me being
there. every one of them is 100% trust worthy a very rare
thing these
days to find
-----Original Message-----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:18 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Is it illegal
Hi Andrew.
Well, strictly speaking it is against the terms and
conditions of the
contract with your bank, which usually states that only you
should know your
pin number, however if you do choose to give your pin number
to your support
worker, it'll be a question of trust. If your support
worker should dame to
betray that trust by using your cards in a fraudulent manor,
the bank is
under no obligation to refund you for any transactions made
while the pin
number has been used, because the card has to be present for
such
transactions. In this respect and this respect only, chip
and pin is
potentially more risky to use than the signature strip
method, where you
have to hand your card to a cashier to be swiped because a
cashier doesn't
need to see the card when paying using a terminal.
All the best and if you do have specific problems with your
hands, you
should ask your bank about alternatives to withdrawing money
if you don't
want to take unnecessary risks.
All the best, Ibrahim.
-----Original Message-----
From: andrew shipp
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:37 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Is it illegal
Hi All, does anyone know if it is 100% illegal for
your support
worker to put your pin number in the ATM or in one of the
pin machines
in a shop? I am diabetic and have berry bad neuropathy
which is
affecting my fingers now meaning that I cannot feel
things properly,
such as the little pip on the number five. I am so
determined to
fight the place where I live over this. I look forward
to any help
regarding this problem. Many thanks in advance. Andy S
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